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Date:      Thu, 13 Aug 1998 19:12:56 -0500 (CDT)
From:      Jeremy Shaffner <jer@jorsm.com>
To:        "Bruce A. Mah" <bmah@CA.Sandia.GOV>
Cc:        "Joe \"Marcus\" Clarke" <marcus@miami.edu>, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: Traceroutes to Cisco Routers 
Message-ID:  <Pine.BSF.3.95q.980813191222.29655G-100000@mercury.jorsm.com>
In-Reply-To: <199808132339.QAA29004@stennis.ca.sandia.gov>

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On Thu, 13 Aug 1998, Bruce A. Mah wrote:

> If memory serves me right, Jeremy Shaffner wrote:
> > On Thu, 13 Aug 1998, Joe "Marcus" Clarke wrote:
> 
> > > Cisco throttles ICMP unreachables so that only 2 unreachables per second
> > > are sent.  The result puts a star in one of the fields:
> > > 
> > > i.e. (200 ms) (200 ms) *
> 
> Whew, I guessed right!  :-)
> 
> > Fair enough.  But it's dropping the second and not the third.  
> > 
> > And it doesn't explain why non-Unix OS's trace to it fine.
> 
> I can't speak for MacOS, but the Win95 tracert command uses ICMP echo requests 
> (just confirmed via tcpdump), while all of the UNIX traceroute programs use 
> UDP packets to arbitrary, high-numbered UDP ports.  Presumably the Cisco IOS 
> doesn't rate-limit ICMP echo replies in the same way that it does ICMP echo 
> requests.
> 
> (In an earlier message, you asked if the UNIX traceroutes all shared a common 
> code base, and AFAIK the answer is "yes".)
> 


Well..that seems to be it.  Thanks everyone.


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