From owner-freebsd-arch@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 3 05:31:02 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 512B237B401 for ; Tue, 3 Jun 2003 05:31:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mx.nsu.ru (mx.nsu.ru [212.192.164.5]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BCFDD43FA3 for ; Tue, 3 Jun 2003 05:31:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from danfe@regency.nsu.ru) Received: from mail by mx.nsu.ru with drweb-scanned (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 19NAz9-0003il-00; Tue, 03 Jun 2003 19:33:51 +0700 Received: from regency.nsu.ru ([193.124.210.26]) by mx.nsu.ru with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 19NAxw-0003Vx-00; Tue, 03 Jun 2003 19:32:36 +0700 Received: from regency.nsu.ru (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by regency.nsu.ru (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id h53CTJM5053465; Tue, 3 Jun 2003 19:29:19 +0700 (NOVST) (envelope-from danfe@regency.nsu.ru) Received: (from danfe@localhost) by regency.nsu.ru (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id h53CTJK9053464; Tue, 3 Jun 2003 19:29:19 +0700 (NOVST) Date: Tue, 3 Jun 2003 19:29:18 +0700 From: Alexey Dokuchaev To: Mike Makonnen Message-ID: <20030603122918.GA53376@regency.nsu.ru> References: <20030603113927.I71313@cvs.imp.ch> <16092.35144.948752.554975@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> <20030603115432.EGLB13328.out002.verizon.net@kokeb.ambesa.net> <16092.36129.388194.477452@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> <20030603122226.BGPM11703.pop018.verizon.net@kokeb.ambesa.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20030603122226.BGPM11703.pop018.verizon.net@kokeb.ambesa.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i X-Envelope-To: mtm@identd.net, gallatin@cs.duke.edu, arch@freebsd.org X-Bogosity: No, tests=bogofilter, spamicity=0.000060, version=0.11.1.4 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-134.0 required=5.0 tests=BOGOFILTER_TEST_PASS,EMAIL_ATTRIBUTION,IN_REP_TO, QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,REFERENCES,REPLY_WITH_QUOTES, USER_AGENT_MUTT,USER_IN_WHITELIST version=2.50 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.50 (1.173-2003-02-20-exp) cc: arch@freebsd.org cc: Andrew Gallatin Subject: Re: Making a dynamically-linked root X-BeenThere: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion related to FreeBSD architecture List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 Jun 2003 12:31:02 -0000 On Tue, Jun 03, 2003 at 08:22:25AM -0400, Mike Makonnen wrote: > On Tue, 3 Jun 2003 07:57:21 -0400 (EDT) > Andrew Gallatin wrote: > > > > > Ok, maybe a webserver is a bad example. But you must admit that > > /bin/sh is commonly used outside the startup scripts. > > Yes, I agree. But... > > So far I think the arguments against it are two-fold: > > 1. Performance > 2. What happens if I hose one of the libraries? > > I think Gordon has already answered them adequately: > > 1. If you don't want it, turn it off Plus numerous people mentioned that they have local patches that yield performance boost substantially enough (5 secs and more). ./danfe