From owner-freebsd-current Mon Jun 26 13:03:09 1995 Return-Path: current-owner Received: (from majordom@localhost) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) id NAA01706 for current-outgoing; Mon, 26 Jun 1995 13:03:09 -0700 Received: from halloran-eldar.lcs.mit.edu (halloran-eldar.lcs.mit.edu [18.26.0.159]) by freefall.cdrom.com (8.6.10/8.6.6) with SMTP id NAA01695 for ; Mon, 26 Jun 1995 13:03:02 -0700 Received: by halloran-eldar.lcs.mit.edu; (5.65/1.1.3.6) id AA18934; Mon, 26 Jun 1995 16:01:25 -0400 Date: Mon, 26 Jun 1995 16:01:25 -0400 From: Garrett Wollman Message-Id: <9506262001.AA18934@halloran-eldar.lcs.mit.edu> To: Mark Murray Cc: Garrett Wollman , ache@astral.msk.su, current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Crypt code summary(2). In-Reply-To: <199506261922.VAA14460@grumble.grondar.za> References: <199506261922.VAA14460@grumble.grondar.za> Sender: current-owner@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk < said: >> o RSAREF, RSAREF applications, and services based on >> RSAREF applications may not be sold. > Does selling a `free' operating system for the distribution costs on CDROM > count as `selling'? Yes. b. The Program may not be used directly for revenue-generating purposes. You may not: (i) use the Program to provide services to others for which you are compensated in any manner; (ii) license or otherwise distribute any Application Program in any manner that generates income to you, including without limitation any income on account of license fees, royalties, maintenance fees and upgrade fees; and (iii) license or otherwise distribute any Application Program without the express written acknowledgment of the end user that the Program will not be used in connection with any revenue-generating activity of the end user. Nothing in this paragraph prohibits you from using the Program or any Application Program solely for internal purposes on the premises of a business which is engaged in revenue-generating activities. Section (iii) is the killer. > GNU may not be sold either. We have GNU. (Not much, and the license makes it > a bit funny, but when you need it, you need it). This is simply not true. Anyone is welcome to sell GNU programs, they simply have to give away the source. Walnut Creek sells GNU programs; see pages 33 and 34 of the Spring '95 catalog. [Unless you are in the free software distribution business, it is hard to develop a business plan that works with this model. Of course, that was the FSF's intention in the first place.] >> o You must give RSA the source code of any free RSAREF >> application you plan to distribute or deploy within >> your company. RSA will make these applications >> available to the public, free of charge. > What is the problem here? We _want_ to do this. We are going to do it anyway. Note the way this paragraph is written. It is not sufficient to simply make a program available so RSA can grab it; every single time you commit a modification to any client program, you (or someone in the US) must send it to RSADSI. The mrouted license is similar, but we're OK because all our changes come from the developers. >> 4. You must use the interface described in the RSAREF >> documentation. > For European users, this does not kill RSAEURO. It is the same interface. The point was that this license doesn't allow arbitrary use of the software components, as does every other piece of software in FreeBSD. It is illegal in the US to compile a program which calls the internal interfaces of RSAREF, regardless of whether you intend to distribute it or not. -GAWollman -- Garrett A. Wollman | Shashish is simple, it's discreet, it's brief. ... wollman@lcs.mit.edu | Shashish is the bonding of hearts in spite of distance. Opinions not those of| It is a bond more powerful than absence. We like people MIT, LCS, ANA, or NSA| who like Shashish. - Claude McKenzie + Florent Vollant