From owner-freebsd-acpi@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Nov 23 19:59:36 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: acpi@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: freebsd-acpi@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D42F416A41F; Wed, 23 Nov 2005 19:59:36 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from grog@lemis.com) Received: from ext-gw.lemis.com (ext-gw.lemis.com [150.101.14.10]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A982643D55; Wed, 23 Nov 2005 19:59:32 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from grog@lemis.com) Received: from wantadilla.lemis.com (wantadilla.lemis.com [192.109.197.135]) by ext-gw.lemis.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BAA4D131BC9; Thu, 24 Nov 2005 06:29:30 +1030 (CST) Received: from eucla.lemis.com (wantadilla.lemis.com [192.109.197.135]) by wantadilla.lemis.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 029B5852DD; Thu, 24 Nov 2005 06:29:30 +1030 (CST) Received: by eucla.lemis.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 78B1586CA1; Wed, 23 Nov 2005 20:51:20 +0100 (CET) Date: Wed, 23 Nov 2005 20:51:20 +0100 From: Greg 'groggy' Lehey To: Graham North Message-ID: <20051123195120.GE908@eucla.lemis.com> References: <4383C20E.20509@shaw.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4383C20E.20509@shaw.ca> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.1i Organization: The FreeBSD Project Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-418-838-708 WWW-Home-Page: http://www.FreeBSD.org/ X-PGP-Fingerprint: 9A1B 8202 BCCE B846 F92F 09AC 22E6 F290 507A 4223 Cc: acpi@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: ACPI problems with Dell laptops (was: Laptop choices) X-BeenThere: freebsd-acpi@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: ACPI and power management development List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 23 Nov 2005 19:59:37 -0000 On Tuesday, 22 November 2005 at 17:12:46 -0800, Graham North wrote: > Am currently trying to choose between a couple of laptops, the luck > winner of which will have Freebsd loaded alongside WinXP. > > Dell Latitude d600 with Radeon 9000? video, intel pro wireless > or > IBM R51 - Intel Extreme2, intel pro wireless. > The main differences will likely be the video and maybe bios, acpi...? > Can someone suggest to me whether these are both safe choices? > Am I better off installing 5.4 or 6.0? I've had both Dell and ThinkPad (no longer IBM). I prefer Dell, despite their attempts to convince me otherwise. However, we currently seem to have significant ACPI problems with Dell laptops. I'm writing this on an Inspiron 6000 running 7-CURRENT, but the same problems occur with 6.0: if I enable ACPI, timing goes to hell, and some things just time out. There was a similar message a couple of days ago from an owner of (I think) the latest Latitude machine, which sounded even worse. My requests for feedback about how to solve the problem have so far not been resolved. If you're otherwise tending towards Dell, I'd suggest you watch this space until there's some indication that the problems will be resolved. Nothing of this says that ThinkPads will do better, of course. I don't know what the situation is there. Greg -- See complete headers for address and phone numbers