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Date:      Fri, 8 Nov 2002 20:33:41 -0500
From:      Eric Gebhart <saseag@unx.sas.com>
To:        "Brian T. Schellenberger" <bts@babbleon.org>
Cc:        Kevin Oberman <oberman@es.net>, Bakul Shah <bakul@bitblocks.com>, mobile@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: using a laptop as a main machine
Message-ID:  <20021108203341.N15749@unx.sas.com>
In-Reply-To: <200211081135.56524.bts@babbleon.org>; from bts@babbleon.org on Fri, Nov 08, 2002 at 11:35:56AM -0500
References:  <20021108160115.60AC65D04@ptavv.es.net> <200211081135.56524.bts@babbleon.org>

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I have had my IDell Inspiron 8000 for over a year now.  I have not
had a single problem with it.  Other than they shipped it with the
wrong video card.

I frequently carry my laptop on my bike or in a back pack.  I even crashed
once and broke the wireless card in half.  I don't leave it plugged
in when I carry it around anymore.

The resolution on my screen is 1600x1200.  That does cause some
problems when it comes to doing presentations on old projectors.
I also run it with two batteries which last a very long time.

Eric

----- Brian T. Schellenberger's Original Message -----
> 
> 
> On Friday 08 November 2002 11:01 am, Kevin Oberman wrote:
> | > From: "Brian T. Schellenberger" <bts@babbleon.org>
> | > Date: Fri, 8 Nov 2002 09:25:44 -0500
> | > Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG
> | >
> | >
> | > I switched to a laptop as my main (only) computer when my Amiga
> | > 1000 bit the dust in 1995 or so (I checked and my first posting to
> | > FreeBSD list was in 1996, so I think that 1995 is right since I
> | > used Linux for the first six months or so).  (I've had *a* laptop
> | > since 1992ish -- a Bondwell B200.)
> | >
> | >
> | > So I have some experience with this . . .
> | >
> | >
> | > I'm surprised that nobody else has mentioned this.
> | >
> | > THE most important feature on a laptop BY FAR is a good warrenty.
> | >
> | > I insist on a three-year warrenty, which is why I buy Dells.  Their
> | > service is excellent.  I didnt get "on-site" service, but they pick
> | > up and deliver via Airborne Express, and if I ship it on Friday I
> | > have it back by Tuesday morning, so never without it for more than
> | > three days.
> | >
> | > I do have a desktop at work.  It runs Windows and it's old an slow
> | > and the display is muddy but it will do in a pinch, so I can
> | > survive three (miserable) days without my main machine.
> | >
> | > If you use your laptop -- really use it, and I carry mine
> | > everywhere; in and back to work every day, on my lap with the
> | > wireless card outside while watching the kids play, in my car while
> | > waiting for people; I even carry it around the house with me from
> | > room to room -- then it *will* require service.
> | >
> | > If it just sits on your desk 90% of the time, maybe not.
> |
> | I have been using ThinkPads for about 7 years and just got my third
> | one. I expect a laptop to last 3 years. By then the technology is
> | just too far behind the power curve for new applications and I get a
> | new one.
> |
> | All of my ThinkPads are still functional and (when running FreeBSD)
> | reasonably usable. None has every needed service except to replace
> | the battery. (They seem to last about 2 years.) The only other
> | failure was a dead row on the LCD of the oldest ThinkPad. More
> | notably, my entire group (7 people) use them and I am only aware of
> | one failure (keyboard dies) and that was after three years while we
> | were waiting for the new ones to arrive.
> |
> | They have always simply worked...on my desk, at home on wireless (at
> | least the last two), on travel at conferences and on planes. If you
> | don't think I take it everywhere, just ask my wife. Our honeymoon and
> | a 6th anniversary trip to Hawaii were probably the only tow time I've
> | been separated from my laptop since we were married.
> |
> | I think you need to look at more reliable laptops.
> |
> | R. Kevin Oberman, Network Engineer
> | Energy Sciences Network (ESnet)
> | Ernest O. Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory (Berkeley Lab)
> | E-mail: oberman@es.net			Phone: +1 510 486-8634
> |
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> 
> 
> Wow.  That is indeed an impressive testimonial.
> 
> I have owned the Bondwell (which lasted quite a while, actually), a 
> Hyperdata, a Chembook (under some other brandname as I recall but it 
> was the same hardware), Two Dells, and (briefly, because these two 
> failed within the first week so I just sent them back and got a refund) 
> an IBM Ambra and a Compaq.  Each of them had to be serviced or replaced 
> at one time or another within their first two years of life.  (Within 
> the first year, in fact, if my memory isn't playing tricks on me, 
> though I can't swear to that.)
> 
> I've never owned a "mainline" IBM laptop, always finding them to be a 
> little bit too expensive for what you get.  But perhaps this has been a 
> mistake.
> 
> By now I've just figured that laptops are like this, period.
> 
> Regardless, though, I'm make sure I got a good warrenty.  As I said to 
> start with, I look for a three-year warrenty; you are correct that more 
> than that is pointless since you will definately want to replace your 
> machine by then anyway.
> 
> 
> I will seriously consider IBM for my next laptop, though.  I'm really 
> quite impressed at what you are telling me; it sounds like you use your 
> laptop just as heavily as I use mine.  I'm sure that most people do not 
> use them quite so heavily.
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> Brian, the man from Babble-On . . . .   bts@babbleon.org (personal)
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