From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 19 08:27:25 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 91256106566C; Mon, 19 Dec 2011 08:27:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lev@FreeBSD.org) Received: from onlyone.friendlyhosting.spb.ru (onlyone.friendlyhosting.spb.ru [IPv6:2a01:4f8:131:60a2::2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 251198FC13; Mon, 19 Dec 2011 08:27:25 +0000 (UTC) Received: from lion.home.serebryakov.spb.ru (unknown [IPv6:2001:470:923f:1:2831:a229:70d2:ba0b]) (Authenticated sender: lev@serebryakov.spb.ru) by onlyone.friendlyhosting.spb.ru (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 099D14AC1C; Mon, 19 Dec 2011 12:27:22 +0400 (MSK) Date: Mon, 19 Dec 2011 12:27:21 +0400 From: Lev Serebryakov Organization: FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <6140271.20111219122721@serebryakov.spb.ru> To: "Samuel J. Greear" In-Reply-To: References: <4EE1EAFE.3070408@m5p.com> <4EE2AE64.9060802@m5p.com> <4EE88343.2050302@m5p.com> <4EE933C6.4020209@zedat.fu-berlin.de> <20111215024249.GA13557@icarus.home.lan> <4EE9A2A0.80607@zedat.fu-berlin.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1251 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: Adrian Chadd , FreeBSD Stable Mailing List , Current FreeBSD , freebsd-performance@freebsd.org, "O. Hartmann" , Jeremy Chadwick Subject: Re: Benchmark (Phoronix): FreeBSD 9.0-RC2 vs. Oracle Linux 6.1 Server X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: lev@FreeBSD.org List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 19 Dec 2011 08:27:25 -0000 Hello, Samuel. You wrote 15 =E4=E5=EA=E0=E1=F0=FF 2011 =E3., 16:32:47: > Other benchmarks in the Phoronix suite and their representations are > similarly flawed, _ALL_ of these results should be ignored and no time > should be wasted by any FreeBSD committer further evaluating this > garbage. (Yes, I have been down this rabbit hole). Here is one problem: we have choice from three items: (1) Make FreeBSD looks good on benchmarks by "fixing" FreeBSD (2) Make FreeBSD looks good on benchmarks by "fixing" Phoronix (communication with them, convincing, that they benchamrks are unfare / meaningless, ets) (3) Lose [potential] userbase. You know, that these benchmarks are bad. I know. But potential (and even some current!) user doesn't. And it seems, that these benchmarks become popular over Internet. --=20 // Black Lion AKA Lev Serebryakov