From owner-freebsd-doc Sat May 16 06:12:40 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA13193 for freebsd-doc-outgoing; Sat, 16 May 1998 06:12:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from phoenix.welearn.com.au (suebla.lnk.telstra.net [139.130.44.81]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id GAA13188 for ; Sat, 16 May 1998 06:12:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sue@phoenix.welearn.com.au) Received: (from sue@localhost) by phoenix.welearn.com.au (8.8.5/8.8.5) id XAA11591; Sat, 16 May 1998 23:12:23 +1000 (EST) Message-ID: <19980516231220.21276@welearn.com.au> Date: Sat, 16 May 1998 23:12:20 +1000 From: Sue Blake To: nik@iii.co.uk Cc: doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: newbies resources page References: <19980505162032.31666@welearn.com.au> <19980514133926.32628@iii.co.uk> <19980514230445.50671@welearn.com.au> <19980514183700.65505@iii.co.uk> <19980515063350.38176@welearn.com.au> <19980515094848.64129@iii.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.88e In-Reply-To: <19980515094848.64129@iii.co.uk>; from nik@iii.co.uk on Fri, May 15, 1998 at 09:48:48AM +0100 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Fri, May 15, 1998 at 09:48:48AM +0100, nik@iii.co.uk wrote: > [ I'm going to cc: this to -doc, since it's probably useful for others > as well ] Hey Nik, thanks, this is great! > On Fri, May 15, 1998 at 06:33:50AM +1000, Sue Blake wrote: > > OK, well here's where I'd got to already, without actually knowing SGML. > > With much determination I found a bunch of likely-looking files at > > ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/FreeBSD-current/www/data/ and grabbed a > > few examples plus anything I didn't recognise as a web page. > > > > It looks like the first ten and last four lines are the same in each > > file. > > > > OK. Conceptually, this is how it works. > > Each page is an amalgamation of data from at least two sources. > That all made good sense. Just a couple more things to check... > Looking at newbies.sgml from the top down: > > > > is another RCS tag. This will expand to the ID of this file (it's name, > when it was last edited, who by and so on) and be placed in an SGML comment > when the file is checked in. > > > &header; > > This is the standard beginning of an HTML document. We then include the > &header; entity. So why isn't the included in the &header; entity as well? > Lower case I explained above. I did change the list items. You had > >
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    • > > which is probably valid HTML, but isn't 'clean', so I changed it to That's what I was thinking, but it was in whatever I was using as a model and I couldn't provide any serious reasons against it so it stayed. Thanks for clarifying. > > The main problem that I have so far is that there's no way to see > > what it looks like and check the links when I'm finished, except for > > using a bit of imagination and lots of carefull eyeballing or modifying > > the file slightly to display it in a web browser. I knew it was time to stop asking questions, I just knew it... > For this you can use CVSup Oh no! Another thing to learn! :-) > to download the entire web site. This includes > a 'Makefile' which you can use to turn individual pages into HTML with > > % make newbies.html > > or use it to build a local copy of the entire site with > > % make OK, but I haven't got space for it right now. I will learn about CVSup when there's more space here, honest :-) Oh, another thing. What happens if someone does something that's hideous, or that just wouldn't be right on the web site. How is that dealt with? > Hope that helps, Yep, the puzzle's really coming together! For others too, I hope. -- Regards, -*Sue*- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message