From owner-freebsd-wireless@freebsd.org Thu Nov 17 23:03:10 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-wireless@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7691EC4743B for ; Thu, 17 Nov 2016 23:03:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fnoyanisi@yahoo.com) Received: from nm35-vm3.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com (nm35-vm3.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com [72.30.238.75]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3DBFE1F56 for ; Thu, 17 Nov 2016 23:03:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fnoyanisi@yahoo.com) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s2048; t=1479423783; bh=Imh+keODtjKPrwIxw5X7Huq4FMnnuxCUwmg9P0rq9v8=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:From:Subject; b=JAUe2W+g1raFz8SwBeKffLxbXKNP1CxnJA3A38g1R8KOWBzUY42rqtbe+UGvbW7gW6PgyixykKIsi1QLdMJCWcxd1LHHKO7jjWQQ/gHeh9+fop+zFGJAjM0qtIORk5aFgKuVlGlps+satCFkEMuz4K9D68IiocnZtKfw+9hdWy9vijCDVk6jksTptsCB3Qt4zHmiZ2aUwSpXBnrvZ/upw3sPTXY12d2GbkNZy33nj67oPzL2NpN59tAat2GoQcdrOO/VDqvViXFvC7OtegWBbnOBQbyM9JAlYdix1V0OEVDlL5Zas5H+ujC6yXai+/CG9LKppKOxyVrlcu+ugbkJZw== Received: from [66.196.81.173] by nm35.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 17 Nov 2016 23:03:03 -0000 Received: from [98.139.212.210] by tm19.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 17 Nov 2016 23:03:03 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1019.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 17 Nov 2016 23:03:03 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 328837.48328.bm@omp1019.mail.bf1.yahoo.com X-YMail-OSG: 7Cv8SOUVM1l6n081bMkkijlrTjf3WkcpdS9qRBEF2aFZwzSVTKDVL5ICG_y.hkf UUXPvMxhFvvirTmKxciKNubupP4hctCU_egjAFuAwx.FYNJhHmYprU_yvYAl7gbkQNDxv.aHD1js 2.Qolh17kAM.MOcY1q9gzcMh5Qlfz4TE4tUSCZ4bh2jpxtpkeNoFpFxMtvtg7n6z2LlvPLnm9fZf JWc4EvvuDbQ2BYCgy_XwsIvnpNts_i6vYgwYOcKuTQURKd.23AIgIhk5uFX.v1Sb6HsiBGS..jQk iiKdOibpyeNkUQTiyGGjIWhle_scb9Ul2t4tRfS8u8wwPFGvMGC6N4mVo3wvfuGmQf6z9M1PSLEK gsq19iTNn.e34O634bQFmqDGyxYELgQJfpqlzB65DSx3QYJLlT3APcgs_LQRyHSsP0Rpp0DOrMMa jUsmaNcjxFPjRmLvcnxJyR.aVFudQ8aoyUP4h_OBRQD1Vdin5mZjqZp48nqxTRhDc7_TRlf5K4Ki 1fvpfSKqIhwWzZJn3kR5txpvtO4W_o_8s2oEz Received: from jws400174.mail.bf2.yahoo.com by sendmailws117.mail.bf1.yahoo.com; Thu, 17 Nov 2016 23:03:02 +0000; 1479423782.951 Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2016 23:03:02 +0000 (UTC) From: Fehmi Noyan ISI Reply-To: Fehmi Noyan ISI To: paradox , "freebsd-wireless@freebsd.org" Message-ID: <928785492.2423288.1479423782631@mail.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <225996051.2837635.1479422548896@mail.yahoo.com> References: <225996051.2837635.1479422548896.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <225996051.2837635.1479422548896@mail.yahoo.com> Subject: Re: sourcecode of broadcom drivers up to 2011 yr sup MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-BeenThere: freebsd-wireless@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Discussions of 802.11 stack, tools device driver development." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2016 23:03:10 -0000 >> To porting need a license ? may be for USA or some other countrys but no= t for whole world To port any software, the original work should allow you to do so. This is = called "Free Software License", which is different than "Open Source". Appa= rently, the Broadcom source files give no permission to third parties for r= edistribution/modification of the work. When you say "porting to FreeBSD", my interpretation of the phrase is "maki= ng the code or resulting binary work under FreeBSD". Below is what Wikipedi= a understands from "porting" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Porting >> I do not think that broad=D1=81om will seek and pursue all users who wis= h to use porting code Aye, they sure can "sue" somebody, not necessarily the users though. Have y= ou heard about "AT&T Lawsuit" before? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FreeBSD#Lawsuit There is also a nice reading here (if you are interested in a bit of UNIX h= istory) https://www.amazon.com/Daemon-Gnu-Penguin-Peter-Salus/dp/097903423X ----- Original Message ----- From: paradox via freebsd-wireless To: paradox ; Adrian Chadd Cc: "freebsd-wireless@freebsd.org" Sent: Friday, November 18, 2016 11:42 AM Subject: Re: sourcecode of broadcom drivers up to 2011 yr sup To porting need a license ? may be for USA or some other countrys but not f= or whole world What you mean about porting ? I mean, thats sourcecode can build and can generate a work binary Create(generate) this binary from source or not, a user decides I do not think that broad=D1=81om will seek and pursue all users who wish t= o use porting code -------------------------------------------- On Fri, 11/18/16, Adrian Chadd wrote: Subject: Re: sourcecode of broadcom drivers up to 2011 yr sup To: "paradox" Cc: "freebsd-wireless@freebsd.org" Date: Friday, November 18, 2016, 12:26 AM no, we don't have a licence to port it open source and I don't have a licence to generate binaries for other people. -adrian On 17 November 2016 at 14:17, paradox via freebsd-wireless wrote: > what you mean ? if we have broadcom sourcecode, we can't porting and use it for self ? > > -------------------------------------------- > On Fri, 11/18/16, Fehmi Noyan ISI wrote: > > Subject: Re: sourcecode of broadcom drivers up to 2011 yr sup > To: "paradox" , "Felix Friedlander" > Cc: "freebsd-wireless@freebsd.org" > Date: Friday, November 18, 2016, 12:03 AM > > > >>> the sourcecode can be porting to freebsd but > not including to kernel > > not quite sure about this... obviously enough, licences are > there for a reason. > >=20 ________________________________ >=20 From: paradox via freebsd-wireless > To: Felix Friedlander > > Cc: freebsd-wireless@freebsd.org > Sent: Friday, November 18, 2016 9:42 AM > Subject: Re: sourcecode of broadcom drivers up to 2011 yr > sup > > > if Anrian already have access to source code of broadcom, > its great ! i don't known about it > > about of licensing, the sourcecode can be porting to freebsd > but not including to kernel, seems many people tobe > enougth this > > >=20 -------------------------------------------- > On Thu, 11/17/16, Felix Friedlander > wrote: > > Subject: Re: sourcecode of broadcom drivers up to 2011 yr > sup > To: "paradox" > Cc: freebsd-wireless@freebsd.org > Date: Thursday, November 17, 2016, 10:32 PM > > > > On 18 Nov. 2016, at 05:36, paradox via > freebsd-wireless > > wrote: > > > > seems all BCM WIFI PHY & MAC sourcecode of > ABG/N/LP/NT/SSN > > hope your can build it or take part for independ > module > > > MAC > > https://github.com/elenril/VMG1312-B/tree/master/bcmdrivers/broadcom/n= et/wl/impl10/wl/sys > > PHY > > https://github.com/elenril/VMG1312-B/tree/master/bcmdrivers/broadcom/n= et/wl/impl10/wl/phy > > There=E2=80=99s a difference between finding the code, and having > a licence to use it=E2=80=A6 If I=E2=80=99m not mistaken Adrian already > has access to the proprietary Broadcom driver through his > work, it=E2=80=99s more of a licensing issue. > > Still a nice find though, with this and the Cypress > datasheets some things may become a bit easier. > > -- > Felix Friedlander >=20 _______________________________________________ > freebsd-wireless@freebsd.org > mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-wireless > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-wireless-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-wireless@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-wireless > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-wireless-unsubscribe@freebsd.or= g" _______________________________________________ freebsd-wireless@freebsd.org mailing list https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-wireless To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-wireless-unsubscribe@freebsd.org"= =20