From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jan 6 3:19:41 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from pointer.raytheon.co.uk (pointer.raytheon.co.uk [193.115.14.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B44415517 for ; Thu, 6 Jan 2000 03:19:38 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from Chris.Smith@raytheon.co.uk) Received: from rslhub.raytheon.co.uk (unverified) by pointer.raytheon.co.uk (Content Technologies SMTPRS 2.0.15) with SMTP id ; Thu, 06 Jan 2000 11:24:25 +0000 Received: by rslhub.raytheon.co.uk(Lotus SMTP MTA v4.6.2 (693.3 8-11-1998)) id 0025685E.003E1FD0 ; Thu, 6 Jan 2000 11:18:33 +0000 X-Lotus-FromDomain: RAYTHEONUK From: Chris.Smith@raytheon.co.uk To: Alwyn Schoeman Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-Id: <0025685E.003E1FB5.00@rslhub.raytheon.co.uk> Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2000 11:18:04 +0000 Subject: Linux vs FreeBSD Flame War (again) - was Re: More Info MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, just though I'd stir the flames some more. >On Thu, Jan 06, 2000 at 01:39:29AM +0000, Salvo Bartolotta wrote: >> 1) kernel compilation: freebsd vs. linux >> 2) kernel, userland and ports organization in FreeBSD as opposed to >> the fragmented, incoherent organization in Linux; >> 3) FreeBSD stability; >> 4) (flame bait ;-) FreeBSD is a high-quality OS, designed by some of >> the brightest Computer Scientists in the world. BTW, you should read a >> little Unix history. Ex nihilo nihil fit :-) >> >> N.B. strictly speaking, Linux is NOT Unix. > >Personaly: >1) Linux kernel configuration is better than freebsd, especially if you >don't come from BSD background. Why should an ethernet card have different >names? ep0, ed0??? Kernel configuration is nicer in Linux due to make xconfig, but at least you have to know roughly what you're talking about to build a BSD kernel, therefore making your system more likely to boot afterwards. I moved from Linux to BSD due to it's greater varsatility. Wnat two bt848 cards? Just add the line: controller bktr1 Simple. Plus the network interface names dont cause as much trouble. Example:- My system has 2x DEC 21040 cards and 1x 3COM 3c509 card. All used. eth0, eth1, eth2 is not helpful. de0, de1, ep0 is! >2) I'm impressed with the way ports work, being used to RPM's I quickly noticed >some shortcomings. If RPM is used correctly, ports are no match. >Recently FreeBSD's not so great filesystem got corrupted. Guess what got damaged? Package >information, so now I can't get any information on installed packages.UPgrading ports, I mean >installed ports? Probably the only point its got going >for it against RPM is that its easier to stay up to date. >Kernel and userland I would about rate the same. RPM always causes problems - Try installing a RedHat RPM on a Caldera 2.2 system and watch it die. There is no defined standard across RPM per Vendor. Ports on the other hand are system specific and well maintained. There are very few (if any) rogue ports out there, but RPMS need checking thoroughly before putting on a secure system. >3) Both are so stable you can't tell the difference. True >4) Ditto for both. True >5) Security. Both FreeBSD and Linux installs with tight security lately, check >out the latest Mandrake (beta), if you're not careful you end up with a dumb and deaf box. Tight >security in above is meant as with minimal services, etc. My Last RedHat Install (6.1) - a couple of weeks ago caused several concerns. Such as the following:- Why does it always ask for a password on superuser commands in normal users. This tempts 'players'. In FreeBSD, just dont add the user to the wheel group and they cant do anything at all nasty! >Is a 2 wheel vehicle with a door and round steering tool, a bicycle or a car? I'l have the roaring 4.6-litre V8 Land Rover of FreeBSD, while you can have the Volkswagen of Linux. Land-rovers are very reliable, fun and do exactly what you want _everywhere_. When you buy one of these you'll never change it! _Everyone_ has volkswagens because they're reliable, well-built and over-publicised. Take your pick. I'd rather be different and have a proper UNIX system (as the original message states). >Just my R 0.02, which would relate too $0, or 0 euro. > > > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message Chris Smith Raytheon Sytems Limited. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message