From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 13 09:43:21 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7146937B404 for ; Sun, 13 Apr 2003 09:43:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pop017.verizon.net (pop017pub.verizon.net [206.46.170.210]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A01743FBD for ; Sun, 13 Apr 2003 09:43:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from leblanc@keyslapper.org) Received: from keyslapper.org ([68.160.24.154]) by pop017.verizon.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.27 201-253-122-126-127-20021220) with ESMTP id <20030413164318.CAYC1817.pop017.verizon.net@keyslapper.org> for ; Sun, 13 Apr 2003 11:43:18 -0500 Received: from keyslapper.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by keyslapper.org (8.12.8p1/8.12.3) with ESMTP id h3DGhFso023707 for ; Sun, 13 Apr 2003 12:43:16 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from leblanc@keyslapper.org) Received: (from leblanc@localhost) by keyslapper.org (8.12.8p1/8.12.8/Submit) id h3DGhELA023699 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 13 Apr 2003 12:43:14 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 13 Apr 2003 12:43:13 -0400 From: Louis LeBlanc To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20030413164312.GA69263@keyslapper.org> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20030413114437.GC22242@kurdistan.ath.cx> <20030413120049.GF22242@kurdistan.ath.cx> <3E9971F6.70607@potentialtech.com> <200304131639.40759.freebsd.nospam@mekanix.dk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=unknown-8bit Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <200304131639.40759.freebsd.nospam@mekanix.dk> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.4i X-Authentication-Info: Submitted using SMTP AUTH at pop017.verizon.net from [68.160.24.154] at Sun, 13 Apr 2003 11:43:18 -0500 Subject: Re: E-mail Scam, Addressess being collected of mailing list ::Advice Requested X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 13 Apr 2003 16:43:21 -0000 On 04/13/03 04:39 PM, Bjarne Wichmann Petersen sat at the `puter and typed: > On Sunday 13 April 2003 16:19, Bill Moran wrote: > > > > I have reason to believe that these scammers are collecting e-mail > > > addresses of our mailing list users, I'm taking this very seriously and > > > would like ask the more experienced of you on what action to take next. > > Welcome to hell. While I don't have 100% proof ... I think you are > > absolutely correct: that spammers harvest email addresses from this (among > > others) list. > > Well, I can prove it. I'm using different addresses for various lists, so I > know *where* spammers get my address. And the address I'm using for this list > gets it's share of spam. :-( > > And once... *once* in a thoughtless moment my address I only use for personal > use ended up here... few days later an address that have been perfectly > spamfree for *years* started receiving penisenlargement investment from horny > wet teenies through Nigerian Bank... Yup. I subscribe to 8 or 10 mailing lists off and on, and with different addresses for each (notice the '+freebsd), and I'm always surprised to see new mail show up in a list folder that I've unsubscribed from months earlier. I highly recommend Spamassassin. 2.5x is very good once you get the bayes filters trained. I have had about a 99.5% success rate, with only one false positive and about 4 or 5 false negatives in about 1,000 spam messages. Lou -- Louis LeBlanc leblanc@keyslapper.org Fully Funded Hobbyist, KeySlapper Extrordinaire :) http://www.keyslapper.org ԿԬ No amount of careful planning will ever replace dumb luck.