From owner-freebsd-testing@freebsd.org Sun Nov 15 15:01:29 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-testing@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 306C7A2F90F for ; Sun, 15 Nov 2015 15:01:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from baptiste.daroussin@gmail.com) Received: from mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (mailman.ysv.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::50:5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0558715C0 for ; Sun, 15 Nov 2015 15:01:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from baptiste.daroussin@gmail.com) Received: by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) id 04EA8A2F90D; Sun, 15 Nov 2015 15:01:29 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: testing@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DEBADA2F90B; Sun, 15 Nov 2015 15:01:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from baptiste.daroussin@gmail.com) Received: from mail-wm0-x243.google.com (mail-wm0-x243.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c09::243]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6D0ED15BF; Sun, 15 Nov 2015 15:01:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from baptiste.daroussin@gmail.com) Received: by wmeo63 with SMTP id o63so18951418wme.2; Sun, 15 Nov 2015 07:01:27 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=sender:date:from:to:cc:subject:message-id:references:mime-version :content-type:content-disposition:in-reply-to:user-agent; bh=TsvWtpzMkeXatdqk2PqsxVZGWdzuAhmK9PJCeHikABU=; b=OvWxX4dgMxvG2AMKO9Zed7n3ZIvU3Qxn+x1o7trHD7mMhkwwGx7MlbkKWwbBQ2iMJX /jd4EI+2GFdWcP8Bt1Gero7xLkRigT1GV7+Htq7m08rzlBsttzstMBbYlSZuW1iuPfZ4 3JXhZSNnY3j9JpHa5qV3enHoLfJoW6W2iiA9NcQZgovFhEXXvkh0m10YWY0zbXnSX3+p RRULYAiRaIBjL4YQ1NFRSjNd90P719JCHGmP/B1g22lK8qv2BC1mdl2KJzvd56TxfvKo HoarKO2c72ywEceviqTbymFzxVIasF4fiEpplnc11i1iWZGDsdq98a3BxR4ndIozr059 zsHg== X-Received: by 10.28.4.212 with SMTP id 203mr14871407wme.89.1447599687006; Sun, 15 Nov 2015 07:01:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from ivaldir.etoilebsd.net ([2001:41d0:8:db4c::1]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id q6sm9248061wmd.8.2015.11.15.07.01.25 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Sun, 15 Nov 2015 07:01:26 -0800 (PST) Sender: Baptiste Daroussin Date: Sun, 15 Nov 2015 16:01:24 +0100 From: Baptiste Daroussin To: Andrey Chernov Cc: John Marino , NGie Cooper , Craig Rodrigues , freebsd-current Current , "freebsd-testing@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: Need help fixing failing locale tests Message-ID: <20151115150124.GE93991@ivaldir.etoilebsd.net> References: <69242BD8-9010-47F0-9706-BE206376ECEA@gmail.com> <289892B6-EACE-4BDA-B838-D3DC750319DE@gmail.com> <56482FA9.2010803@marino.st> <56487973.5070803@freebsd.org> <20151115124656.GB93991@ivaldir.etoilebsd.net> <564880FA.5000009@freebsd.org> <20151115130009.GC93991@ivaldir.etoilebsd.net> <564882E1.5050404@freebsd.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="OZkY3AIuv2LYvjdk" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <564882E1.5050404@freebsd.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.24 (2015-08-30) X-BeenThere: freebsd-testing@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: Testing on FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 15 Nov 2015 15:01:29 -0000 --OZkY3AIuv2LYvjdk Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, Nov 15, 2015 at 04:04:33PM +0300, Andrey Chernov wrote: > On 15.11.2015 16:00, Baptiste Daroussin wrote: > > On Sun, Nov 15, 2015 at 03:56:26PM +0300, Andrey Chernov wrote: > >> On 15.11.2015 15:46, Baptiste Daroussin wrote: > >>> On Sun, Nov 15, 2015 at 03:24:19PM +0300, Andrey Chernov wrote: > >>>> On 15.11.2015 10:09, John Marino wrote: > >>>> ISO8859-1 locales are legacy even if obsoleted in modern world (I ag= ree > >>>> with that). Lots of ports (even at configure stage!) have checks for > >>>> them. Since we generate locales from CLDR now, it will be no cost to > >>>> bring all 8859-1 back to not violate POLA and not fix every failing = port. > >>>> > >>> Exp-run have been made and no ports were failing with the removed loc= ales. > >> > >> There is soft-fail, configure just marks that locales are not supported > >> and use "C". Sorry I don't remember port names where I saw it right now > >> and don't have a time to search for them right now too. Soft-fails (li= ke > >> in tcl with nl_langinfo) are almost impossible to detect excepting > >> specific situation happens or source code inspection. Do we ever need > >> them when there is no harm to keep 8859-1 locales? > >=20 > > Is it ok if I readd those locales as aliases on 8859-15? >=20 > It is hacking solution leads to wrong collating order and character > classes. It is better to generate true 8859-1 just in the same way you > already do for 8859-15. >=20 > BTW, I can't check right now, but in case 8859-5 is removed too, it is > better to restore it, it was used in Suns as their standard Russian > encoding. >=20 I have restored the 8859-1 The 8859-5 were never removed: be_BY.ISO8859-5 ru_RU.ISO8859-5 sr_Cyrl_RS.ISO8859-5 uk_UA.ISO8859-5 Best regards, Bapt --OZkY3AIuv2LYvjdk Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1 iEYEARECAAYFAlZInkQACgkQ8kTtMUmk6Ex91wCgt+K0f8xPqxx7i0lLWXHBtrUI m70AnR2oSLlWYzm2dQi+31fHlxKkSq8l =D2Lo -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --OZkY3AIuv2LYvjdk--