From owner-freebsd-newbies Thu Oct 11 11:44: 5 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from prserv.net (out2.prserv.net [32.97.166.32]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1399937B406 for ; Thu, 11 Oct 2001 11:43:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from w3099044 (searcher0.enterprise.com[65.197.19.240]) by prserv.net (out2) with SMTP id <200110111843512020294qdne>; Thu, 11 Oct 2001 18:43:51 +0000 Reply-To: From: "Andrew Thorpe" To: Subject: RE: XFree86 Config Problems Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2001 11:49:46 -0500 Message-ID: <000001c15274$bc75b840$2014c90a@w3099044> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook CWS, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <20011011182647.MSPL306.mta05.onebox.com@onebox.com> Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Chris, Don't worry about the name thing, you didn't know. Anyways, I don't remember what the error message said. I could find out but not right now. I do remember though, that it was something to the effect of the fact that the default parameters that I entered were not what the system expected to find in the config file. EX: In the default setting depth, I replaced 8 bit with 24 bit and in the default resolutions, I replaced "640x480, 800x600, 1024x768" to read "800x600" and then "800x600, 640x480, 1024x768". By the way, I just realized that I have misinformed you. The problem is not that the X server defaults to 800x600, the problem is that it defaults to 640x480 (800x600 would be ideal). Sorry for the confusion. Also, I read that once the X server is loaded, you can change the resolution by pressing (Alt?)and + or - accordingly. I tried this and it did not seem to work. I can get decent color depth, but I cannot get resolution better than 640x480. -Andrew -----Original Message----- From: Christopher T. Jewett [mailto:ctjewett@onebox.com] Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2001 1:27 PM To: athorpe@erac.com Subject: RE: XFree86 Config Problems Just a quick apology on the name bit. I should have checked how you signed your name. ;-) > When I ran xf86cfg I tried numerous times to select my own > defaultresolutions and desired resolutions. The server would keep crashing, > or it would hang. So, after a while, I let FreeBSD probe my card for > desired > resolutions and tried choosing resolutions off of that. Still, the > server > would crash out or hang. Plus the color depth was only like 8 bit. By any chance did you happen to catch the error message when it crashes out? It will crash out if it doesn't recognize a command in the XF86Config file. (Hopefully they'll change this in a future version so it just ignores unreconized commands.) Did you see that you could actually change your default resolution any place? Apparently modes doesn't work, even though it SHOULD. :-p > After several failed attempts with that. I backed up the config file > and > tried to manually edit default color depths and resolutions, still > no luck. > I finally let FreeBSD pick a default resolution and depth for me (xf86cfg) > and then I read the FreeBSD Handbook (4.3) section on X windows and > started > to pass the depth parameters I wanted as an argument to startx (it > was > something like 'startx -24b', I don't exactly remember the actual command, > but it is also in the man page for startx). Now by passing the argument > to > the command, I can get the X server to run in a different color depth, > but > it still defaults to 600x800 resolution. I have not yet found information > that allows me to pass the resolution as an argument. I think I can > make > this process easier, by just aliasing 'startx' to 'startx -24b'. But > this > still does not solve my resolution problem. I find this odd, because > my > video card and monitor run fine through the X server under Linux. As I said before, I don't seem to have any trouble with the bit-depth. A quick "DefaultDepth 24" seemed to fix that in a jiffy. Also, it should be noted that I've had a successful install with Linux and also XFree86 3.3.6 under FreeBSD 4.2 and 4.3. I really don't understand why the problems with XF86-4. :-( Chris > -----Original Message----- > From: Christopher T. Jewett [mailto:ctjewett@onebox.com] > Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2001 12:43 PM > To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: XFree86 Config Problems > > > Doubt it is at all helpful, but my monitor is also a Sony Trinitron > Based > monitor. It's a Dell P780. > > Andy: Did you just use the Modes "" Screen Subsection > to change your resolution? At least yours is crashing out. That seems > like progress compared to mine completely ignoring the Modes setting > (Which I have set to 1024x768, yet it still displays in 640x480.) > > Thanks! > > Chris > > > ---- "Andrew Thorpe" wrote: > > I too have a problem similar to Christopher's. I can run X from any > > user > > account; however, I can not change the default parameters to the > X > > server. > > If I pass along the depth parameters as an argument to startx, it > runs > > fine > > at that color depth. However, my default resolution is always 600x800 > > and > > everytime I try to change the configuration file to default to a > different > > resolution, the X server crashes out. I used xf86cfg to configure > my > > script, > > and vi to edit it. I have a Diamond Speedstar A50 card with a Sony > > Trinitron > > CVS(? I am not sure about the letters, I am at work and cannot check)-100 > > monitor. Both of these are selectable devices in the configuration > > setup. > > > > -Andrew > > > > >Huh? I take it wrapper is somehow supposed to help with unprivilidged > > >users booting X from the startx script, but why is it not installed > > when > > >you install X 4.1.0 if it's required for runtime unprivilidged user > > access? > > > Also, this still fails to help why my resolution is still defaulting > > >to 640x480, dispite changes to my XF86Config file that should display > > >in 1024x768. > > > > > >Also, if you read my note, you'll see that I checked Xfree86.org > already, > > >and in fact, the very documents you pointed me to really aren't > all > > that > > >helpful. Directly quoting the installation notes is the text: > > > > > >"The next step is to configure the X server. That is covered in > detail > > >in an as-yet unwritten document :-(. In the meantime, there are > three > > >ways to create a basic X server configuration file for XFree86 4.1.0. > > >One is to run the xf86config utility. Another is to run the xf86cfg > > utility. > > >The third option is to use the new -configure X server option: > XFree86 > > >-configure" > > > > > >Doesn't seem exactly helpful, since I already used the -configure > > way, > > >as it was recommended in the FreeBSD documentation and worked like > > a > > >charm, does it? Any further assistance you could provide would > be > > helpful, > > >even if just explaining further in detail how Wrapper is supposed > > to > > >magically fix my unprivilidged user problem. > > > > > >Thanks again! > > > > > >Chris > > > > ---- Scott Corey wrote: > > > install wrapper in /usr/ports/x11 dir. > > > > > > This program runs an X server after sanity-checking the environment > > > and any options passed to it. It is meant to enhance security > on > > > multi-user systems running XFree86 4, where the ability to use > a > > > startx script is needed. If you have XFree86 3, do not install > > > this: you do not need it and it will not work. If you have no > > > untrusted users or always run the X server from xdm, you do not > > > need this (in the latter case, just take the suid bit off your > X > > > server). > > > > > > Next time you might try looking at xfree86 home page since they > are > > > the > > > ones responsible for the programs content. > > > > > > http://www.xfree86.org/4.1.0/index.html > > > or > > > http://www.xfree86.org/4.1.0/Install.html > > > > > > >I'm trying to run XFree86 4.1.0 on FreeBSD 4.4 with KDE 2.2.2. > > X > > > seems > > > >to run correctly under user "root" (which I'm only using for > > configuration > > > >purposes), but for some reason, I can't get it to display the > screen > > > >in the 1024x768. I used XFree86 -configure to setup my XF86Config > > > file > > > >(Which worked like a charm, configuring my NVIDIA GeForce 2 MX/400 > > > and > > > >Monitor settings to the perfect HSYNC and VSYNC settings), and > > went > > > back > > > >in using vi to add DefaultDepth so that it would display in 24-bit > > > color. > > > > I also tried adding only "1024x768" to Modes in the 24-bit Color > > > > > > Subsection > > > >under Display, but that didn't seem to help. I really wish they > > > would > > > >implement the GUI based setup utility that was in XFree86 3.3.6, > > > but > > > >they still haven't done that yet. > > > > > > Yes they have it's xf86cfg. > > > > > > >Also, for some reason, when I try to start X under my unpriviliged > > > user > > > >it fails to load saying something about " > 0 > > not > > > in > > > >XAuthority function 'add' or 'list'". I've tried adding the > correct > > > >settings to my .XAuthority file, but it still doesn't seem to > want > > > to > > > >load. > > > > > > > > > >I'm hopelessly confused about the screen resolution issue, and > > the > > > other > > > >issue with unpriviliged users not being able to boot X is just > > really > > > >irritating too. Does anyone have any suggestions? I could really > > > use > > > >the help. I've read just about all the useless documentation > on > > > this > > > >issue as I could find (on Xfree86.org and FreeBSD.org and > > Daemonnews.com's > > > >newbie help.) > > > > > > >Very Frustrated, > > > >Chris > > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > FREE voicemail, email, and fax...all in one place. > Sign Up Now! http://www.onebox.com > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message > __________________________________________________ FREE voicemail, email, and fax...all in one place. Sign Up Now! http://www.onebox.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message