From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 7 05:45:19 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C6C016A419 for ; Fri, 7 Sep 2007 05:45:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chad@shire.net) Received: from hobbiton.shire.net (mail.freestylefund.com [166.70.252.250]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5108413C478 for ; Fri, 7 Sep 2007 05:45:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chad@shire.net) Received: from [76.23.4.92] (helo=[192.168.99.68]) by hobbiton.shire.net with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES128-SHA:128) (Exim 4.51) id 1ITWec-0001RH-RR for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 06 Sep 2007 23:45:19 -0600 In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <025E3A4E-2EE8-4490-A0AD-A068B0EBCDB9@shire.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: "Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC" Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2007 23:45:13 -0600 To: User Questions X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 76.23.4.92 X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: chad@shire.net X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No (on hobbiton.shire.net); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Subject: Re: no SMP without ACPI? (amd64) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 07 Sep 2007 05:45:19 -0000 On Sep 5, 2007, at 3:07 AM, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: > > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org >> [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of Kris >> Kennaway >> Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2007 1:57 AM >> To: Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC >> Cc: User Questions >> Subject: Re: no SMP without ACPI? (amd64) >> > >> Note that this may well be hardware related: without acpi you are >> only >> using one CPU, etc, so if one of the others is bad it will only fail >> when you have ACPI enabled -- even if ACPI itself is not to blame. >> > > Easily testable by running that Other Operating system on the thing > which I would have expected Chad to have done. Sorry to be MIA for the last day. No, I did not test it with that OS which shall not be named. However, I did attempt to install Sol10 on it. Sol10 also relies on ACPI btw. Anyway, the same error happened a good way through the installation -- it rebooted itself during the high IO of installing the system onto the system array. Sol10 uses a 32bit kernel for the installation and I think, but am not sure, that it only activates 1 CPU core. I do not think, however, that it is a bad CPU. I can boot the system with ACPI and activate all 4 CPU cores and I can run CPU intensive things, so far, as long as they do not generate lots of IO, and processes run fine on all 4 CPUs and will run for hours. However, if I do something that generates IOs, like a build world on the FreeBSD source, about 75% of the time it does not make it all the way through with the build. It takes me about 45min on this system to do a "make buildworld" and it usually will happen 10-30 minutes into the build. 25% of the time it will make it through 1 build world, and once or twice has made it through 2, but always fails in the same way on a subsequent retry of the build. (Ie, I just keep doing builds over and over until it fails, which is 75% of the time in the first build, 24% of the time in the second, and 1% of the time in the third, roughly speaking). I also do not think it is the memory. For one, that would show up even with ACPI disabled, and 2, I ran multiple complete passes of the standalone memtest86 program without error. I do not think it is thermally related as the temperature never got very high and I had additional fans temporarily blowing or I also stuck it directly over my A/C floor register with the A/C on blowing cold air directly at the intake of the system. I monitored the Areca system while it was building and its temperatures never got anywhere near the limits Areca sets for their boards. (The Areca has its own ethernet port and I was directly attached to that from my powerbook during several tests when it failed). This machine is now in production with only the 1 CPU core. I cannot do extensive testing but I can get pieces of info or do a reboot with ACPI if there are data items for me to grab if people want to take a look at what it is doing etc. Thanks! Chad --- Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC Your Web App and Email hosting provider chad at shire.net