From owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jul 29 21:59:55 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F67037B401; Tue, 29 Jul 2003 21:59:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from whale.sunbay.crimea.ua (whale.sunbay.crimea.ua [212.110.138.65]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C2B3643FD7; Tue, 29 Jul 2003 21:59:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ru@sunbay.com) Received: from whale.sunbay.crimea.ua (ru@localhost [127.0.0.1]) h6U4xm0U022722 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Wed, 30 Jul 2003 07:59:48 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from ru@sunbay.com) Received: (from ru@localhost) by whale.sunbay.crimea.ua (8.12.9/8.12.8/Submit) id h6U4xkVi022713; Wed, 30 Jul 2003 07:59:46 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from ru) Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2003 07:59:46 +0300 From: Ruslan Ermilov To: "David O'Brien" , Wilko Bulte , Scott Long , Wilko Bulte , Marcel Moolenaar , Poul-Henning Kamp , alpha@FreeBSD.org Message-ID: <20030730045946.GA22205@sunbay.com> References: <20030722081738.GB7811@sunbay.com> <20030729095436.GB7617@sunbay.com> <20030729173848.GE4940@freebie.xs4all.nl> <20030729192343.GB66399@sunbay.com> <20030729195449.GA3614@dragon.nuxi.com> <20030729202150.GD66399@sunbay.com> <20030730014325.GA6459@dragon.nuxi.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="+HP7ph2BbKc20aGI" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20030730014325.GA6459@dragon.nuxi.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.4i Subject: Re: Floppies for ALPHA X-BeenThere: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the Alpha List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2003 04:59:55 -0000 --+HP7ph2BbKc20aGI Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, Jul 29, 2003 at 06:43:26PM -0700, David O'Brien wrote: > On Tue, Jul 29, 2003 at 11:21:50PM +0300, Ruslan Ermilov wrote: > > On Tue, Jul 29, 2003 at 12:54:49PM -0700, David O'Brien wrote: > > > On Tue, Jul 29, 2003 at 10:23:43PM +0300, Ruslan Ermilov wrote: > > > > > Other than that I think the patch does what you intend it to do. > > > > >=20 > > > > Thanks, it sure does. :-) > > > > But does that also mean that you'd feel comfortable if I committed > > > > it now? > > >=20 > > > Not as posted. As I mentioned, the patch does too much. Can you pos= t a > > > new patch that produces a single 8MB MFSBOOT "floppy" image? > > >=20 > > MFSBOOT? This is something new. :-) > >=20 > > I guess you mean the current boot.flp by it, right? If yes, > > I can't see a point in having it, so please explain. How it > > could be used? > >=20 > > For sparc64, boot.flp is useful, beause "you can dd it to a disk > > from solaris and then boot off it to install", according to > > Jake. Can the same be made on Alpha? >=20 > Yes it can. MFSROOT(BOOT) what ever you want to call it. I.e., / is not > the hard disk you want to install on -- thus it has to be RAM disk so the > real hard disk device isn't opened. >=20 Please provide a real-world scenario how this image could be used. The contents of MFS root floppy does *NOT* have a kernel, and just increasing its size to say 10M won't do the trick. > > The idea is to have a miniboot.iso that just resembles the > > contents of the boot.flp, but can be used to boot off the > > CD-ROM (and then do an FTP installation, for example). >=20 > NO! The idea is to have an image that has / as a memory file system, > that has a full GENERIC kernel *and* has a full set of modules *and* has > sysinstall as /sbin/init. >=20 How such an image can be used on Alpha? (This is what miniboot.iso will look like, and I think we can even generate both ISO image and floppy image from it, but I just cannot understand how the latter can be used on Alpha, please answer the question above.) Can anyone else out there please explian what David wants, as I just cannot understand it, despite trying really hard? Cheers, --=20 Ruslan Ermilov Sysadmin and DBA, ru@sunbay.com Sunbay Software Ltd, ru@FreeBSD.org FreeBSD committer --+HP7ph2BbKc20aGI Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQE/J1DCUkv4P6juNwoRAvDUAJ9g5stXOfL9z8iZ0uFZDcWcWwctYQCgipah tuej4phJdN3py58PEEw8rDw= =7SCF -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --+HP7ph2BbKc20aGI--