From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 23 15:11:34 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 45CC016A4CF for ; Tue, 23 Mar 2004 15:11:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from ns1.tiadon.com (SMTP.tiadon.com [69.27.132.161]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C5B543D2D for ; Tue, 23 Mar 2004 15:11:34 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kdk@daleco.biz) Received: from daleco.biz ([69.27.131.0]) by ns1.tiadon.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.0); Tue, 23 Mar 2004 17:12:06 -0600 Message-ID: <4060C422.8070207@daleco.biz> Date: Tue, 23 Mar 2004 17:11:30 -0600 From: "Kevin D. Kinsey, DaleCo, S.P." User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.6) Gecko/20040322 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jerry McAllister References: <200403232242.i2NMg5q20197@clunix.cl.msu.edu> In-Reply-To: <200403232242.i2NMg5q20197@clunix.cl.msu.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 23 Mar 2004 23:12:06.0531 (UTC) FILETIME=[4282AD30:01C4112C] cc: Randy Pratt cc: Chris cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Need assitance installin FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 23 Mar 2004 23:11:34 -0000 Felt a need to clarify this; flame me where I'm wrong.... Jerry McAllister wrote: >Actually, I think the intention of the MINI-ISO is to boot and >run the installation with everything loaded from one of the ftp >sites. > > > This doesn't sound correct at all. What you've described is what the _floppies_ do. They boot and run sysinstall and get you to the 'Net for FTP setup. The mini ISO gives you the "minimal" install. That is, the root stuff (/, etc, bin, sbin, stand, and /usr/sbin, /usr/bin, the gnu and otherwise contributed base, and /var (cron files and so on).... After running sysinstall from the mini ISO, you should be able to have a working system without accessing the 'Net. However, that simply means that you can use the CLI to go further, and most everyone will want to. There is no ports skeleton installed, no ports tarballs, no documentation, no packages, no compat, no X, just good old ls, cat, grep, tar, etc. and a few editors (vi, ed, ee) ... As close as you'll get to a GUI with the mini ISO and no net connection is the sysinstall program itself. >You just burn the MINI-ISO directly to CD and boot from it - no other >manipulation of the file such as trying to uncompress it or make a >bootable file system. It is all already there as is.. > > Yes...IIRC, there can be some issues if the burn tool you're using doesn't speak the correct lingo. If that's the case, you'll likely not boot from it OR do any further installation. >You burn the CD, boot it, do the preliminary stuff and then when selecting >install media, choose ftp and then pick a site that is convenient from >the list and it handles all the rest. If you have a good high speed >net connection - at a university or something, it takes less than >an hour. > > > As I said, not necessary until you get around to something not listed above. See my earlier post on my strategy for this. As for the speed, that's probably true. But the full ISO #1 was 5-6 hours over T1 last I checked (and trusting the telco's word that it was really a T1 --- I was skeptical after seeing that estimate....) Kevin Kinsey DaleCo, S.P.