From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Nov 4 13:32:59 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from field.videotron.net (field.videotron.net [205.151.222.108]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AFBB237B4C5 for ; Sat, 4 Nov 2000 13:32:55 -0800 (PST) Received: from modemcable213.3-201-24.mtl.mc.videotron.ca ([24.201.3.213]) by field.videotron.net (Sun Internet Mail Server sims.3.5.1999.12.14.10.29.p8) with ESMTP id <0G3I00MAXRUUB3@field.videotron.net> for freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG; Sat, 4 Nov 2000 16:32:54 -0500 (EST) Date: Sat, 04 Nov 2000 16:37:38 -0500 (EST) From: Bosko Milekic Subject: Re: Stability In-reply-to: <3A0478AF.A5E69FF9@cuk.nu> X-Sender: bmilekic@jehovah.technokratis.com To: Marko Cuk Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi Marko, On Sat, 4 Nov 2000, Marko Cuk wrote: > Hello !! > > Can anyone explain me, why is FreeBSD known as powerful sistem with > industrial strenghth and rock stability, but I manage to crash it several > times. > > The bridge code in 4.1x is unstable in conjuction with ipfw, I had several > problems with Vinum and Raid5 and maschine crashed every day if I used > something od previously mentioned things. I personally did notice some problems with bridging as well, and I fixed one panic situation in -CURRENT about a month ago. I still have a Problem-Report assigned to me and am very interested in tracking more of these down, but really need help from folks running -STABLE as well, and that can afford to provide some debugging information. Hence, if you have a complaint about the stability of some component, please realize that there is very little that developers can do about it without proper evidence and data. Take a look at the handbook: http://www.freebsd.org/handbook/ to find out exactly what's looked for. In short, you should at least provide a backtrace following the panic/page fault/whatever it is you're seeing. > I came from Linux world, wich was unlikely for me, but Linux never crashed on > my maschines. My average uptime was 100 days with bridge, with raid5 and so > on.... > > This is not a threat or something, but I am curious, why FBSD crashes in such > manners. I also managed to run Vinum twice by mistake, but, again, maschine > crashed. > > Thanks, Marko Cuk Regards, Bosko Milekic bmilekic@technokratis.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message