From owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org Thu Apr 22 21:37:32 2021 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F0075FEF73 for ; Thu, 22 Apr 2021 21:37:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ronald-lists@klop.ws) Received: from smarthost1.greenhost.nl (smarthost1.greenhost.nl [195.190.28.88]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4FR9kM272mz4pt1 for ; Thu, 22 Apr 2021 21:37:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ronald-lists@klop.ws) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=klop.ws; s=mail; h=Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:MIME-Version:Date:Message-ID :Subject:From:To:Sender:Reply-To:Cc:Content-ID:Content-Description: Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender:Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID: In-Reply-To:References:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe:List-Subscribe: List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=5565EiCmHRXDet5rnaYPq+A8QcD36/3J6r8UpCFDY54=; b=iOrGOyTrHHD87qfR0d8FYoJqDI OSYjWE4m7zCrVZLt9WktawQaaCLnBukZea5GrSBtQO4g1/6HwukVU+gwXHDCMUivL2COMKeiOnkvm 7d7QCAeWTRxVzQ2oHSd1OFObUgF/p1aoq4J0Vy+oHRDSkWVIgSOn7zxPRaTRFdrB1lto=; To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org From: Ronald Klop Subject: 13.1 from main? Message-ID: <0101bee2-ae7e-5ea5-b7be-4f35c3467d9e@klop.ws> Date: Thu, 22 Apr 2021 23:39:11 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:78.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/78.9.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Authenticated-As-Hash: 398f5522cb258ce43cb679602f8cfe8b62a256d1 X-Virus-Scanned: by clamav at smarthost1.greenhost.nl X-Spam-Level: / X-Spam-Score: -0.4 X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.4 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED, BAYES_50, DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID, DKIM_VALID_AU, DKIM_VALID_EF autolearn=disabled version=3.4.2 X-Scan-Signature: 63767ed6f001c63471f2cde26909bd9c X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4FR9kM272mz4pt1 X-Spamd-Bar: -- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=klop.ws header.s=mail header.b=iOrGOyTr; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=klop.ws; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of ronald-lists@klop.ws designates 195.190.28.88 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=ronald-lists@klop.ws X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-3.00 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RWL_MAILSPIKE_VERYGOOD(0.00)[195.190.28.88:from]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[klop.ws:s=mail]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip4:195.190.28.64/27]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[klop.ws:+]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[klop.ws,none]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[195.190.28.88:from]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-1.00)[-1.000]; RCVD_COUNT_ZERO(0.00)[0]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; SUBJECT_ENDS_QUESTION(1.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:47172, ipnet:195.190.28.0/24, country:NL]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; MAILMAN_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-current] X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.34 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 22 Apr 2021 21:37:32 -0000 Hi, Just wondering a bit. Why wouldn't the FreeBSD project release 13.1 from the main branch in about six months or some other time period? While making some monthly errata releases in the meantime. - This saves a lot of back porting of commits. - It prevents branches with old code like the current 11-branch with an old openssl version. Release early. - Saves some people time in maintaining the branches. - Saves time in coordinating the releases. Release often. - Reduces the number of needed RC's. Because the main branch doesn't divert a lot of what people are running in production. - Most people start testing/production use after the release. So this should be used as input for the main branch to improve the next release. Currently the feedback of 13.0 is put in 14.0 which is 2 years in the future. Just some thoughts. Which I really like. :-) Regards, Ronald.