From owner-freebsd-chat Thu Feb 15 16:48:27 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from fledge.watson.org (fledge.watson.org [204.156.12.50]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1288037B69B; Thu, 15 Feb 2001 16:48:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from fledge.watson.org (robert@fledge.pr.watson.org [192.0.2.3]) by fledge.watson.org (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id f1G0mIh49219; Thu, 15 Feb 2001 19:48:18 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from robert@fledge.watson.org) Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2001 19:48:18 -0500 (EST) From: Robert Watson X-Sender: robert@fledge.watson.org To: Mike Meyer Cc: Jimmy Olgeni , Alan Clegg , freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Beastie rights? Was: Seems one of the "defacement" groups now uses beastie. In-Reply-To: <14988.30305.721832.686244@guru.mired.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu, 15 Feb 2001, Mike Meyer wrote: > Robert Watson types: > > The TrustedBSD daemon was created by Leigh > > and is used with the permission of Kirk McKusick since he claims rights > > relating to the BSD Daemon. > > In looking over his website, it's not at all clear whether Kirk is > claiming copyright on the just the images, or is also claiming copyright > on the character. The former would mean that things like the TrustedBSD > daemon don't require his permission to use (which is what I thought was > going on, and what made Leigh's letting him control the usage cool). The > latter gives him more rights; I'm not sure if it can be applied in this > case (or has Kirk written fiction about the daemon?), and exactly what > it covers. I think it's an ambiguity that generally people have not attempted to resolve, rather, they've gone with Kirk's wishes by asking permission for both the original beastie images, as well as derivatives, acknowledging rights that may or may not be based entirely in law. Robert N M Watson FreeBSD Core Team, TrustedBSD Project robert@fledge.watson.org NAI Labs, Safeport Network Services To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message