From owner-svn-ports-head@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 21 15:21:42 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: svn-ports-head@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C060FAB9 for ; Wed, 21 Aug 2013 15:21:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bsd-src@helfman.org) Received: from mail-pb0-f52.google.com (mail-pb0-f52.google.com [209.85.160.52]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 956C723AF for ; Wed, 21 Aug 2013 15:21:42 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-pb0-f52.google.com with SMTP id wz12so523807pbc.11 for ; Wed, 21 Aug 2013 08:21:36 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=8+z1LBq1B5OTgp09nMATH8KcXWa6P31v2l5bzQEWW9g=; b=SkLhMWBIv1O2xs4ixUTnU9g7qJMxB1x8ce+nsJh2sJFDzOWyuXwIfyTIZjKD4NjWDs M86V3klwChjEMzbGP9ZDzyruD/S8jnAcqhqFysv8eEUGUYoncgD5/+dQikB6R/bMQ5/R 05l46pwYHSL++8g3LFVc5jgy8GT3HEUG09xQ88BkFccyo10vmWMkqleckQAl4EhcSmkj QXaiomZFmZMIbnmnPN04+ZLCdI5jmZ8sCuqqlApyWpqy8HeUeNcxe3Deyguz56wG0pok eG2g1QiPtNZvGiiFP2LVbvQffEawGZKnFpJdGCdSvEY9rvxDjOQw3GOub9wivxKdbYJG S/7g== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQmoOgRx30wLEmzgy8cdXoa+fOy6fLCIQA/Gd6bpmPjlt6nhn+X50gslYa6O9BwH99rxh45l MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.66.228.234 with SMTP id sl10mr239907pac.149.1377098496765; Wed, 21 Aug 2013 08:21:36 -0700 (PDT) Sender: bsd-src@helfman.org Received: by 10.70.100.165 with HTTP; Wed, 21 Aug 2013 08:21:36 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20130821012043.GA40499@FreeBSD.org> References: <201308201148.r7KBmYcU083251@svn.freebsd.org> <521359E7.2020008@marino.st> <52135BDE.9070600@marino.st> <20130821012043.GA40499@FreeBSD.org> Date: Wed, 21 Aug 2013 08:21:36 -0700 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 5G2nG36r5MDUAbV8kek_5TPHMi8 Message-ID: Subject: Re: svn commit: r325041 - head/japanese/eb From: Jason Helfman To: Alexey Dokuchaev Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.14 Cc: "svn-ports-head@freebsd.org" , "svn-ports-all@freebsd.org" , marino@freebsd.org, Andrej Zverev , "ports-committers@freebsd.org" X-BeenThere: svn-ports-head@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: SVN commit messages for the ports tree for head List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 21 Aug 2013 15:21:42 -0000 On Tue, Aug 20, 2013 at 6:20 PM, Alexey Dokuchaev wrote: > On Tue, Aug 20, 2013 at 04:20:01PM +0400, Andrej Zverev wrote: > > You can investigate this issue. Nothing personal, but I trust our > maintainers. > > Even if this wrong, port still work with such changes. I can't save > world. > > You can't save the world, but you can 1) stop trusting maintainers who tend > to submit crappy patches, and 2) use your common sense when you commit. > > I could go on with how fed up I am with this "maintainer can't be wrong" > shit > over these years. I probably should shut up at this point though. > > ./danfe > > Respectfully to the rest.... Reading this thread was very disheartening. We, as committers, are responsible not only for what we commit, but also for what we break. Our maintainers are not committers, and this should've been fixed the moment it was raised from our developer community, as it is now broken. -jgh -- Jason Helfman | FreeBSD Committer jgh@FreeBSD.org | http://people.freebsd.org/~jgh | The Power to Serve