From owner-freebsd-chat Tue Jan 7 17:43:22 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D9D5237B406 for ; Tue, 7 Jan 2003 17:43:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from durendal.skynet.be (durendal.skynet.be [195.238.3.91]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 77CF043ED8 for ; Tue, 7 Jan 2003 17:43:16 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from brad.knowles@skynet.be) Received: from [12.27.220.113] (ip-26.shub-internet.org [194.78.144.26] (may be forged)) by durendal.skynet.be (8.11.6/8.11.6/Skynet-OUT-2.20) with ESMTP id h081gn020215; Wed, 8 Jan 2003 02:42:50 +0100 (MET) (envelope-from ) Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: bs663385@pop.skynet.be Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <20030106051858.U33984-100000@moo.sysabend.org> References: <20030106051858.U33984-100000@moo.sysabend.org> X-Grok: +++ath X-WebTV-Stationery: Standard; BGColor=black; TextColor=black Reply-By: Wed, 1 Jan 1984 12:34:56 +0100 Date: Tue, 7 Jan 2003 19:23:19 -0600 To: Jamie Bowden From: Brad Knowles Subject: Re: Backup Solutions Cc: Brad Knowles , chat@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org At 5:22 AM -0800 2003/01/06, Jamie Bowden wrote: > Repeat after me: > > RAID is NOT a backup. Absolutely. If I gave the impression that I thought it was, I apologize. > You're smarter than this Brad, there are many reasons to do backups, and > disk failure is one of the least common reasons (ie, how many times have > you had to restore user files deleted accidentally vs. due to hardware > failure?) RAID is one key component of the system, but only one. In this case, I would be primarly using it to get logical filesystems that are sufficiently large for the volume of video editing work I'd be doing, not for the types of increased reliability it can offer. Clearly, once you've got all this stuff, then you need to back it up. And that's probably where the largest amount of money will be spent. ;-( I'm just trying to find somewhat less expensive ways to backup the data I've got, and the data I anticipate having. And I want to do it in a cross-platform environment, which gives me a reasonable chance of having the backups continue to be readable and useable, even after an OS upgrade or three on either the clients or the server(s). -- Brad Knowles, "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." -Benjamin Franklin, Historical Review of Pennsylvania. GCS/IT d+(-) s:+(++)>: a C++(+++)$ UMBSHI++++$ P+>++ L+ !E-(---) W+++(--) N+ !w--- O- M++ V PS++(+++) PE- Y+(++) PGP>+++ t+(+++) 5++(+++) X++(+++) R+(+++) tv+(+++) b+(++++) DI+(++++) D+(++) G+(++++) e++>++++ h--- r---(+++)* z(+++) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message