From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 11 14:59:52 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2ED0716A419 for ; Fri, 11 Jan 2008 14:59:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Hartmut.Brandt@dlr.de) Received: from smtp-3.dlr.de (smtp-3.dlr.de [195.37.61.187]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A9BB113C465 for ; Fri, 11 Jan 2008 14:59:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from Hartmut.Brandt@dlr.de) Received: from knop-beagle.kn.op.dlr.de ([129.247.173.6]) by smtp-3.dlr.de over TLS secured channel with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Fri, 11 Jan 2008 15:59:49 +0100 Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2008 15:59:52 +0100 (CET) From: Harti Brandt X-X-Sender: brandt_h@knop-beagle.kn.op.dlr.de To: Timo Schoeler In-Reply-To: <20080111150529.e96a7b1d.timo.schoeler@riscworks.net> Message-ID: <20080111155532.Q60251@knop-beagle.kn.op.dlr.de> References: <47873B06.9010603@riscworks.net> <200801111058.m0BAwAMG001075@lurza.secnetix.de> <20080111140144.59498431.timo.schoeler@riscworks.net> <47876B39.3040703@FreeBSD.org> <20080111145128.abb76a0a.timo.schoeler@riscworks.net> <20080111145557.C60251@knop-beagle.kn.op.dlr.de> <20080111150529.e96a7b1d.timo.schoeler@riscworks.net> X-OpenPGP-Key: harti@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-OriginalArrivalTime: 11 Jan 2008 14:59:49.0773 (UTC) FILETIME=[9D01D3D0:01C85462] Cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: FreeBSD's problems as seen by the BSDForen.de community X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Harti Brandt List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2008 14:59:52 -0000 On Fri, 11 Jan 2008, Timo Schoeler wrote: TS>Thus Harti Brandt spake on Fri, 11 Jan 2008 TS>14:59:26 +0100 (CET): TS> TS>> On Fri, 11 Jan 2008, Timo Schoeler wrote: TS>> TS>> TS>No, I didn't. I said that the work is done ineffectively as he's TS>> TS>doing underprioritized stuff. Working on higher prioritized stuff TS>> TS>would be more efficient, and would help the project even more. TS>> TS> TS>> TS>Given the assumption that the developer is able to do both, the TS>> TS>Xmas tree as well as importing ZFS v9 into the tree. TS>> TS> TS>> TS>(I don't see the point that when somebody is really *capable* of TS>> TS>doing both things, why should (s)he do the 'lower priority' thing. TS>> TS>If you are at the olympic stadium and you're the best sprinter, TS>> TS>you wouldn't join the marathon...!) TS>> TS>> Sorry, this is just crap. I'm a rather bad guitar player, at least TS>> much worse than I'm a programmer. Yet I enjoy playing Joe Pass at 1/4 TS>> the speed while I could import ZFS during that time ... People just TS>> bring to FreeBSD what they like to do, not what would be the best for TS>> you or others. If you want them to change priorities according to TS>> YOUR needs, pay them money. TS>> TS>> harti TS> TS>Harti, you didn't get the point. You can also lead you dog into my TS>yard, as long as you don't work on FreeBSD noone cares, really. The TS>difference is *when* working on FreeBSD *what* do to -- xmas tree or TS>ZFS. TS> TS>I thought this argumentation was pretty straightforward, but sometimes 2 TS>+2 is really 5... I don't see the difference between working on what I like to work on in FreeBSD and leading my dog (if I had one). It's just my choice because it is my time. If I'd be paid for working on FreeBSD, it'd be different. If I find the xmas tree controller more interesting than ZFS why should I work on ZFS? You assumption is that it matters for you on what I work, but it doesn't matter for me, so I could just work on what is good for you. Well, this entire thread is just utterly off-topic. harti