From owner-cvs-src@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 7 11:21:13 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: cvs-src@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 378F037B408 for ; Mon, 7 Jul 2003 11:21:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.speakeasy.net (mail7.speakeasy.net [216.254.0.207]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C374C43FA3 for ; Mon, 7 Jul 2003 11:21:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jhb@FreeBSD.org) Received: (qmail 23984 invoked from network); 7 Jul 2003 18:21:08 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO server.baldwin.cx) ([216.27.160.63]) (envelope-sender )encrypted SMTP for ; 7 Jul 2003 18:21:08 -0000 Received: from laptop.baldwin.cx (gw1.twc.weather.com [216.133.140.1]) by server.baldwin.cx (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h67IL5GI093665; Mon, 7 Jul 2003 14:21:05 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jhb@FreeBSD.org) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.5.4 on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20030707180618.GB75063@dragon.nuxi.com> Date: Mon, 07 Jul 2003 14:21:19 -0400 (EDT) From: John Baldwin To: "David O'Brien" cc: Makoto Matsushita cc: "Bruce A. Mah" cc: src-committers@FreeBSD.org cc: gordon@FreeBSD.org cc: cvs-src@FreeBSD.org cc: cvs-all@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: cvs commit: src/etc/mtree BSD.root.dist src/include paths.h src/rescue Makefile README src/rescue/librescue Makefile src/rescue/rescue Makefile X-BeenThere: cvs-src@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: CVS commit messages for the src tree List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 07 Jul 2003 18:21:13 -0000 On 07-Jul-2003 David O'Brien wrote: > On Tue, Jul 01, 2003 at 03:25:26PM -0400, John Baldwin wrote: >> On 01-Jul-2003 David O'Brien wrote: >> > On Tue, Jul 01, 2003 at 02:28:05PM -0400, John Baldwin wrote: >> >> No. sysinstall copies over /stand and then chroots into the new root >> >> for the actual install after it does the newfs. If you don't copy /stand >> >> then installs will fail. >> > >> > Yes, we need a /stand during the install. But not post install. >> >> Maybe for your machines, not for some machines I work with that use custom >> install scripts. :) > > Oh, for a local TWC'ism. Stock FreeBSD should not be required to support > rare localisms. David, Whether you like it or not, having FreeBSD be friendly to being deployed as the OS in "smart devices" is good for FreeBSD's future, not bad. I strongly do not wish to have to maintain a TWCBSD fork and strongly try to minimize the differences between what we use and what is stock. I don't commit every hack we use, but I don't see a legitimate reason for blowing away /stand during installs. Go ahead and be pig-headed if you want though. If the consensus is that /stand should go then I guess that will be Yet Another Local Patch. -- John Baldwin <>< http://www.FreeBSD.org/~jhb/ "Power Users Use the Power to Serve!" - http://www.FreeBSD.org/