From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 6 09:23:00 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 90DAD16A4D0; Tue, 6 Jan 2004 09:23:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtp.omnis.com (smtp.omnis.com [216.239.128.26]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DAD5143D58; Tue, 6 Jan 2004 09:22:47 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from wes@softweyr.com) Received: from softweyr.homeunix.net (66-91-236-204.san.rr.com [66.91.236.204]) by smtp-relay.omnis.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C68172DD7; Tue, 6 Jan 2004 09:22:46 -0800 (PST) From: Wes Peters Organization: Softweyr To: "Munden, Randall J" , "Brett Glass" , , Date: Tue, 6 Jan 2004 09:22:47 -0800 User-Agent: KMail/1.5.4 References: <79B4EAB03B5E4649A740A8C1452F606435AF1B@y6001a.umb.corp.umb.com> In-Reply-To: <79B4EAB03B5E4649A740A8C1452F606435AF1B@y6001a.umb.corp.umb.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200401060922.47152.wes@softweyr.com> cc: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Where is FreeBSD going? X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 06 Jan 2004 17:23:00 -0000 On Tuesday 06 January 2004 09:05 am, Munden, Randall J wrote: > > Honestly, I picked up the troll thread because I'm curious as to > why someone would commit so much time in effort to trolling > these lists. In my experience it's a good idea to explore the > reasoning behind that type of dedication (faulty or not) for no > other reason that discovery. On-the-other-hand some people > accuse me of being obsessive about information. /me shrugs People who hate rarely require rational reasons for hating. Attempting to apply logic to that which is not logical is not likely to produce useful results. > Which leads me to query, given limited time an resources, what can > I do? I've moved many a production server to fBSD over the > last 10 or so years -- some of them literally -- by blathering > nonstop about the virtues of the OS. So what else is there? Do I > need to start writing documentation or publishing and pimping more > Howtos on the intarweb? Should I brush up on my C and start patching? Yes, to all of the above. Pick the one(s) you enjoy most, or that you wish to learn most, and dig in. Best of all would be to write or fix some code, or write some articles that get printed on dead trees -- what Brett likes to call 'the mainstream press.' You know, those things the IT management leaves on the floor of the mens room. > Frankly, I'd never given thought to providing more effort. The OS > has always done it's own advocacy in my experience. Advocacy is important only if you want to conquer the world. Brett apparently does; many of us just want an operating system that meets our needs, and don't particularly care what somebody else uses. IMO, casual 'desktop' or 'laptop' computer users are probably better served by Mac OS X than anything I want to turn FreeBSD into, which is why my 68 year old father is a Mac owner. -- Where am I, and what am I doing in this handbasket? Wes Peters wes@softweyr.com