From owner-freebsd-chat Sat Jun 27 11:36:41 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA12073 for freebsd-chat-outgoing; Sat, 27 Jun 1998 11:36:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mailgw02.execpc.com (mailgw02.execpc.com [169.207.3.78]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA12068 for ; Sat, 27 Jun 1998 11:36:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from fpawlak@execpc.com) Received: from darkstar.connect.com (narn-2-141.mdm.mke.execpc.com [169.207.136.79]) by mailgw02.execpc.com (8.9.0) id NAA14205; Sat, 27 Jun 1998 13:36:35 -0500 (CDT) Received: (from fpawlak@localhost) by darkstar.connect.com (8.9.0/8.9.0) id NAA27872; Sat, 27 Jun 1998 13:36:41 -0500 (CDT) From: "Frank Pawlak" Message-Id: <980627183640.ZM27871@darkstar.connect.com> Date: Sat, 27 Jun 1998 18:36:40 +0000 In-Reply-To: "Jason C. Wells" "Re: Does it's true?" (Jun 27, 9:51am) References: X-Mailer: Z-Mail (5.0.0 30July97) To: "Jason C. Wells" , Eivind Eklund Subject: Re: Does it's true? Cc: freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Jun 27, 9:51am, Jason C. Wells wrote: > Subject: Re: Does it's true? > On Sat, 27 Jun 1998, Eivind Eklund wrote: > > >where it is considered OK to murder people. (If you, the reader, say > >to yourself that you don't consider it OK, then you'd better be > >actively opposing the use of death penalty - otherwise you've just > >turned your logic off in what you say to yourself) > > This statement presumes that execution is murder. Execution is a lawful > punishment in the United States. > > Not everything that causes death is murder. Not even everything that > causes a wrongful death is murder. In the United States we divvy out > justice based on "mens rea" or criminal intent. A cold blooded killer is > guilty of a capital offense whereas a negligent causer of death is guilty > of a less than capital offensel. > > The people of the United States reserve the lawful right to punish the > capital offender by death. Until the people change this law, execution > will not be murder. > > It is never OK to murder people. No one in the US will say it is. Of > course, as you can see by my discussion, which act consitutes a murder is > subject to debate. > > Catchya Later, | UW Mechanical Engineering > Jason Wells | http://weber.u.washington.edu/~jcwells/ > | 206-633-5994 > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message >-- End of excerpt from Jason C. Wells Your right Jason, it is all in the deffinitions isn't it. Frank To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message