From owner-freebsd-www@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 30 14:29:24 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-www@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D27DF16A4CE; Thu, 30 Dec 2004 14:29:24 +0000 (GMT) Received: from sccimhc91.asp.att.net (sccimhc91.asp.att.net [63.240.76.165]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 710CB43D2D; Thu, 30 Dec 2004 14:29:24 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd@nbritton.org) Received: from [192.168.1.10] (12-223-129-46.client.insightbb.com[12.223.129.46]) by sccimhc91.asp.att.net (sccimhc91) with ESMTP id <20041230142923i9100rfkhfe>; Thu, 30 Dec 2004 14:29:23 +0000 Message-ID: <41D410BE.2010505@nbritton.org> Date: Thu, 30 Dec 2004 08:29:18 -0600 From: Nikolas Britton User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (X11/20041219) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Josef El-Rayes References: <41D349F3.6020205@nbritton.org> <20041230140727.GD16248@daemon.li> In-Reply-To: <20041230140727.GD16248@daemon.li> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-www@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Tools of the trade on the *nix platform? X-BeenThere: freebsd-www@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: FreeBSD Project Webmasters List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 30 Dec 2004 14:29:25 -0000 Josef El-Rayes wrote: >Nikolas Britton : > > >>I'm a bit perplexed at what tools I should look at for web/html >>authoring stuff as I just (finally, been playing with BSD since 4.7) >>switched all the main computers around me to FreeBSD (Gnome 2.8 and XFce >>4.2.... GTK2) from Windows when 5.3 was released. >>------------------- >>For generating layout and large amounts of code I'd use Dreamweaver or >>some other popular WYSIWYG editor. >>For generating CSS code I'd use Bradbury's TopStyle. >> >> > >you dont need these wysiwyg editors, they create bad code. >write the code yourself. the only help you need is an editor >that has proper syntax highlighting and helps you with indenting. >i use vi(m). i heard emacs is good too. > >-josef > > > lol, I knew someone was going to say that! I like perl, what's that tell you? :-) Most of the time I do use a programmers editor but for large amounts of code generation and layout (Like starting a brand new site or playing with layout ideas) you can't beat it! As far as bad code, the only code thats bad code is one that doesn't validate@W3C. did you read my whole post?, guess I should have started with the programmers editor and ended with the wysiwyg.