From owner-freebsd-newbies Tue Aug 28 9: 4: 7 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from moutvdom01.kundenserver.de (moutvdom01.kundenserver.de [195.20.224.200]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 68DDA37B403 for ; Tue, 28 Aug 2001 09:04:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from js@jonsonn.de) Received: from [195.20.224.204] (helo=mrvdom00.schlund.de) by moutvdom01.kundenserver.de with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #2) id 15blLN-00081n-00 for freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org; Tue, 28 Aug 2001 18:04:01 +0200 Received: from a7636.pppool.de ([213.6.118.54] helo=jonsonn) by mrvdom00.schlund.de with smtp (Exim 2.12 #2) id 15blLM-0001oy-00 for freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org; Tue, 28 Aug 2001 18:04:00 +0200 From: "Jonas Sonntag" To: Subject: AW: AW: Innovation and Promotion - contains off-topic statements Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2001 18:03:13 +0200 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) In-Reply-To: <3B8AEE4F.5055499C@acuson.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org david johnson wrote > I must respectfully disagree. FreeBSD is much more than just an OS for > routers. It is a general purpose operating system. you're absolutley right. i can tell that my p3-450, 128mb running on fbsd outperformed a tb800, 512mb running win2k adv. server on a lan. i'm using it for various things, but main purpose is routing. > Mac OSX is on the desktop. It's easy to use. For the most its OS is > FreeBSD derived. And it is not "a kind of windows". fbsd derived, but fbsd isn't visible any more. would be to much for a mac user. > the way it is accessed (keeping the old way around for old farts like > me). There's no reason you have to eliminate cp, rm, ls and cat just > because the user has access to an easier to use file manager. apple did. know why? see what keiko recktenwald wrote: > Yes, it might be neccessary to confirm, but I think this is much easier > done, tired Joes in the night, surfing all day long, not knowing what they > do, that writing such a silly batch file. and *THAT IS* the point! do you think joe, who uses a gui similar to mac os and who tries and downloads a script that promises to speed up his internet connection would check if there isn't something like 'rm -R *' included? would he as a gui user have noticed that there is a file structure behind it? he would have a really bad day, just because some 10 year old felt funny about the possibilities included for old farts. i have used ms os'es for more then ten years now, and i know i shouldn't look at a picture that ends with jpg.vbs. ever wondered why email-worms and silly batch scripts only appear in the ms world? because its os'es for beginners *and* advanced users. and those advanced users who have had a bad day can have their fun with beginners that do not know about file extensions. would you like them to use shell scripts or perl instead of visual basic? i fear having those people in the unix world. i'm happy to have them in the ms world when it comes to working, because here are only advanced users who have better to do. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message