From owner-freebsd-advocacy Fri Jul 23 20:42: 0 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Received: from allegro.lemis.com (allegro.lemis.com [192.109.197.134]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B83015060 for ; Fri, 23 Jul 1999 20:41:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from grog@freebie.lemis.com) Received: from freebie.lemis.com (freebie.lemis.com [192.109.197.137]) by allegro.lemis.com (8.9.1/8.9.0) with ESMTP id NAA07222; Sat, 24 Jul 1999 13:10:18 +0930 (CST) Received: (from grog@localhost) by freebie.lemis.com (8.9.3/8.9.0) id NAA43149; Sat, 24 Jul 1999 13:10:17 +0930 (CST) Date: Sat, 24 Jul 1999 13:10:17 +0930 From: Greg Lehey To: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Cc: Radu-Cristian FOTESCU , freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: What to tell to Linux-centric people?! Message-ID: <19990724131017.O84734@freebie.lemis.com> References: <73448.932787007@zippy.cdrom.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i In-Reply-To: <73448.932787007@zippy.cdrom.com>; from Jordan K. Hubbard on Fri, Jul 23, 1999 at 08:30:07PM -0700 WWW-Home-Page: http://www.lemis.com/~grog X-PGP-Fingerprint: 6B 7B C3 8C 61 CD 54 AF 13 24 52 F8 6D A4 95 EF Organization: LEMIS, PO Box 460, Echunga SA 5153, Australia Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-41-739-7062 Sender: owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Friday, 23 July 1999 at 20:30:07 -0700, Jordan K. Hubbard wrote: >> 1. Why Linux has bash as default and FreeBSD csh? They want "command >> history" with ARROWS, not with "!". > > Because FreeBSD makes it so easy to add your own shell of choice from > /usr/ports/shells. Not everyone likes bash, you know, and for > everyone saying "bash should be the default!" there's someone else > going "NO! Tcsh as the default or death!" or "zsh is the One True > Shell you heathens! Bash sucks!" > > It's better to just not get involved in that holy war and let people > add whichever shell they want. Well, I made a suggestion to you in private mail a couple of days ago that we should add a post-install config option to do this sort of thing. When are you going to reply? >> 2. Why Linux has "ls-color" by default and FreeBSD doesn't? [please excuse > > Again, some people think that a colorized ls is the worst idea since > the two-digit year field and others love it. For such people, we have > not one but TWO color ls packages in /usr/ports. But we don't tell newcomers how to get it. This is one of the items I mentioned in my mail message. And yes, I agree with you, colour ls looks terrible. >> 4. Why _nobody_ is making a site like "http://www.linuxapps.com/" for the >> *BSD system(s) in order to find easier apps? > > Because there's already a http://www.freebsd.org/ports :-) That's inadequate for people coming from Linux. We know roughly what they want; why not take the needles out of the haystack? For the rest of you: in my message to Jordan, I specifically mentioned bash and colorls. What other items might interest a Linuxhead? Greg -- See complete headers for address, home page and phone numbers finger grog@lemis.com for PGP public key To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-advocacy" in the body of the message