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Date:      Fri, 18 Apr 1997 16:59:08 -0700
From:      Amancio Hasty <hasty@rah.star-gate.com>
To:        Terry Lambert <terry@lambert.org>
Cc:        nate@mt.sri.com (Nate Williams), dennis@etinc.com, freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: Price of FreeBSD (was On Holy Wars...) 
Message-ID:  <199704182359.QAA01802@rah.star-gate.com>
In-Reply-To: Your message of "Fri, 18 Apr 1997 16:21:32 PDT." <199704182321.QAA03341@phaeton.artisoft.com> 

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If this continues , then I suggest that we pass a vote and kick people out.

	Amancio
>From The Desk Of Terry Lambert :
> > If you have something as simple as a light-socket, and as well
> > understand as all the necessary requirements that a light socket might
> > be used for.  But, do you notice that are *millions* of different types
> > of 'lamps' that fit into millions of different kinds of sockets, because
> > 'one socket fits all' doesn't work.
> 
> How many of these are in your home?
> 
> I chose light-sockets because they *weren't* standard to start with;
> they evolved.  You can make counter points based on evolution (the
> car example you cite is still in the process of evolving), but they
> are hard to support because if you want a tennis partner and you
> start with a lemur, you're going to be waiting a hell of a long time
> for it to evolve.
> 
> 
> > Someon had to break backwards compatability to put light-bulbs in my
> > car, because the 100 Watt bulb I use on my front porch isn't appropriate
> > for dash lights.
> 
> Both the bulb and the socket changed on that one.  The bulb didn't
> change *because* the socket changed (or vice versa).  There was an
> agreement between the manufacturing engineers of the bulbs and those
> of the sockets.  Now sockets are relatively stable between model
> years within a given make of vehicle, and we're back to being standard
> between minor revisions.  How much has the dome light socket form
> factor changed in the Honda Civic since it was originally implemented
> over a decade ago?  The bulb has been revised many times, and the
> manufacture of the socket, but the original agreement remains intact.
> 
> 
> > For every silly example you come up with, I can come up with *hundreds*
> > of counter-examples that are equally valid.
> 
> Or silly, as the case may be.  The validity of the example as a counter
> does not devalue the idea of interchangability of parts, or of the up
> front agreement between the people who make the bulbs and those who make
> the sockets.  Between FreeBSD and vendors like Dennis.
> 
> 
> 					Regards,
> 					Terry Lambert
> 					terry@lambert.org
> ---
> Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present
> or previous employers.





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