From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Nov 20 06:43:55 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 05F9516A4CE for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 06:43:55 -0800 (PST) Received: from rwcrmhc11.comcast.net (rwcrmhc11.comcast.net [204.127.198.35]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4EE4A43FAF for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 06:43:54 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jshamlet@comcast.net) Received: from alexandria (pcp04637401pcs.gambrl01.md.comcast.net[68.49.84.210]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc11) with SMTP id <2003112014435301300mqfmle>; Thu, 20 Nov 2003 14:43:53 +0000 From: "J. Seth Henry" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2003 09:43:50 -0500 User-Agent: KMail/1.5.4 References: <20031119200049.7FE6B16A4DA@hub.freebsd.org> In-Reply-To: <20031119200049.7FE6B16A4DA@hub.freebsd.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200311200943.50666.jshamlet@comcast.net> Subject: Re: Mini atx for firewall X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2003 14:43:55 -0000 Guys, Case Outlet*, and perhaps others by now, have the Travla Flex ATX / mini IT= X=20 case that will accomodate two PCI cards. I have an 933MHz EPIA board with t= wo=20 3c905TX-C NICs, and have seen a substantial improvement in performance over= =20 my old Netgear router.=20 Trust me, the onboard NIC's are crap. If you are building a firewall/router= -=20 get real NIC's. On the other hand, most cable modems are band limited by th= e=20 cable company to about 1.5 to 2Mbps, so a USB ethernet device might not be = a=20 serious limitation - but I would definitely suggest a good NIC for the LAN= =20 side. I've had problems with the rl device on my ITX board "locking up" Regards, Seth Henry *I've done business with them before, and they seem to have fair prices, an= d=20 decent configurations - but other than that, I don't have any relations wit= h=20 them. On Wednesday 19 November 2003 15:00, freebsd-questions-request@freebsd.org= =20 wrote: > On Wed, Nov 19, 2003 at 04:11:46PM +0100, Nico Meijer wrote: > > Hi Francisco, > > > > >Anyone used a mini ATX machine with FreeBSD? > > > > It's mini ITX and yes, just did one yesterday. Small, quiet and > > beautiful. ;-) > > > > It was a ME6000 (fanless 600Mhz machine): > > http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/getmsg.cgi?fetch=3D794445+0+/usr/local/www/d= b/te > >xt/2003/freebsd-questions/20030928.freebsd-questions > > > > >My primary concern is the network card. Since these small machines only > > >have one PCI slot I will add one card for the internal network and then > > >would need the onboard card to connect to the outside world. > > > > I tried a 3com 3c905 with this box and it wouldn't boot. Putting in a > > RTL8139 worked flawlessly. Since the box won't be doing any 'real' work, > > that's okay with me for now. > > > > HTH... Nico > > I'm using a USB Ethernet adapter for the 'outside' interface on my ME6000, > since I needed the PCI slot for the wireless card. =A0Seems to work just > fine - it's only talking to a cable modem so the fact that the USB > connection only runs at 11Mbps is not a problem. =A0Just another option to > consider.