From owner-svn-ports-head@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 21 15:39:44 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: svn-ports-head@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A0548782; Wed, 21 Aug 2013 15:39:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from andrej.zverev@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ob0-x22c.google.com (mail-ob0-x22c.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4003:c01::22c]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 26CB7250E; Wed, 21 Aug 2013 15:39:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-ob0-f172.google.com with SMTP id er7so1090892obc.17 for ; Wed, 21 Aug 2013 08:39:43 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject :from:to:cc:content-type; bh=b/PVGVmAhavA7+/Doi7+47qo3mOqWKcs+KccbDYea1o=; b=0kNqrCfshCDU+WgcaXwS2QaIzt3mIV7u9oGTKHqETb/om3kJCES/ndQ1ElIAEv+kPx ooRvY25F/79RLZVoKCautOVT8IZ/j+upEc23tqYjmX4jZn6FVMBBhO71tmJM5mDGDiie f67nYu9IvqTEwMu5S5Zhs3nN2xXdkhDpNH0X7/dkGhkmzScWa9xCT7QHAHrxeScpuoVY 9+rokwARfX5sxf1vsUHHh2gzepYrr2Q6UIi21k2sC3Ev8XUdj2s7b+p0U+wcxfYsexSf DHU7i7sw1Ft/vwF1AnDWqpoFoLDELbISAefNnTauuUruJ4MfeF+0KUV4mCKDxqBMm/Ie G3TQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.60.40.67 with SMTP id v3mr8888929oek.16.1377099583315; Wed, 21 Aug 2013 08:39:43 -0700 (PDT) Sender: andrej.zverev@gmail.com Received: by 10.182.43.226 with HTTP; Wed, 21 Aug 2013 08:39:43 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <201308201148.r7KBmYcU083251@svn.freebsd.org> <521359E7.2020008@marino.st> <52135BDE.9070600@marino.st> <20130821012043.GA40499@FreeBSD.org> Date: Wed, 21 Aug 2013 19:39:43 +0400 X-Google-Sender-Auth: hDsP8s__VsdxldDZMDhRYRig07Y Message-ID: Subject: Re: svn commit: r325041 - head/japanese/eb From: Andrej Zverev To: Jason Helfman Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: "svn-ports-head@freebsd.org" , Alexey Dokuchaev , marino@freebsd.org, "svn-ports-all@freebsd.org" , "ports-committers@freebsd.org" X-BeenThere: svn-ports-head@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: SVN commit messages for the ports tree for head List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 21 Aug 2013 15:39:44 -0000 I'm sorry, but could you explain it more clear, for simple mortal like me. I'm not understand who is guilty here :-) On Wed, Aug 21, 2013 at 7:21 PM, Jason Helfman wrote: > On Tue, Aug 20, 2013 at 6:20 PM, Alexey Dokuchaev wrote: >> >> On Tue, Aug 20, 2013 at 04:20:01PM +0400, Andrej Zverev wrote: >> > You can investigate this issue. Nothing personal, but I trust our >> > maintainers. >> > Even if this wrong, port still work with such changes. I can't save >> > world. >> >> You can't save the world, but you can 1) stop trusting maintainers who >> tend >> to submit crappy patches, and 2) use your common sense when you commit. >> >> I could go on with how fed up I am with this "maintainer can't be wrong" >> shit >> over these years. I probably should shut up at this point though. >> >> ./danfe >> > Respectfully to the rest.... > > Reading this thread was very disheartening. We, as committers, are > responsible not only > for what we commit, but also for what we break. Our maintainers are not > committers, and > this should've been fixed the moment it was raised from our developer > community, as it is > now broken. > > -jgh > > -- > Jason Helfman | FreeBSD Committer > jgh@FreeBSD.org | http://people.freebsd.org/~jgh | The Power to Serve