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Date:      Wed, 21 Aug 2013 19:39:43 +0400
From:      Andrej Zverev <az@freebsd.org>
To:        Jason Helfman <jgh@freebsd.org>
Cc:        "svn-ports-head@freebsd.org" <svn-ports-head@freebsd.org>, Alexey Dokuchaev <danfe@freebsd.org>, marino@freebsd.org, "svn-ports-all@freebsd.org" <svn-ports-all@freebsd.org>, "ports-committers@freebsd.org" <ports-committers@freebsd.org>
Subject:   Re: svn commit: r325041 - head/japanese/eb
Message-ID:  <CAD5bB%2Bi3DWp9LQ=LW%2BzmNeT5-TNNPuvnN5C6%2BVaP%2B23aCDNOFw@mail.gmail.com>
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References:  <201308201148.r7KBmYcU083251@svn.freebsd.org> <521359E7.2020008@marino.st> <CAD5bB%2BiA3HQ=dHmE5tjkEzcD88oAeBU4nvEqjjNmbjg=ix1P3Q@mail.gmail.com> <52135BDE.9070600@marino.st> <CAD5bB%2BhVqd-is=F2_EteSaH-mF0L45K4MmO2EU6vRaU1f2P2GA@mail.gmail.com> <20130821012043.GA40499@FreeBSD.org> <CAMuy=%2BjagDOn%2BeuFXxgBGTSuZaJcWQYR1ueOQATsvOuQY6VFFg@mail.gmail.com>

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I'm sorry, but could you explain it more clear, for simple mortal like
me. I'm not understand who is guilty here :-)

On Wed, Aug 21, 2013 at 7:21 PM, Jason Helfman <jgh@freebsd.org> wrote:
> On Tue, Aug 20, 2013 at 6:20 PM, Alexey Dokuchaev <danfe@freebsd.org> wrote:
>>
>> On Tue, Aug 20, 2013 at 04:20:01PM +0400, Andrej Zverev wrote:
>> > You can investigate this issue. Nothing personal, but I trust our
>> > maintainers.
>> > Even if this wrong, port still work with such changes. I can't save
>> > world.
>>
>> You can't save the world, but you can 1) stop trusting maintainers who
>> tend
>> to submit crappy patches, and 2) use your common sense when you commit.
>>
>> I could go on with how fed up I am with this "maintainer can't be wrong"
>> shit
>> over these years.  I probably should shut up at this point though.
>>
>> ./danfe
>>
> Respectfully to the rest....
>
> Reading this thread was very disheartening. We, as committers, are
> responsible not only
> for what we commit, but also for what we break. Our maintainers are not
> committers, and
> this should've been fixed the moment it was raised from our developer
> community, as it is
> now broken.
>
> -jgh
>
> --
> Jason Helfman          | FreeBSD Committer
> jgh@FreeBSD.org     | http://people.freebsd.org/~jgh  | The Power to Serve



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