From nobody Mon Dec 5 18:26:22 2022 X-Original-To: freebsd-current@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4NQsT636Bmz4j7RR for ; Mon, 5 Dec 2022 18:26:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gshapiro@freebsd.org) Received: from zim.gshapiro.net (zim.gshapiro.net [IPv6:2001:bc8:2e97:100::100]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.gshapiro.net", Issuer "R3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4NQsT54xj1z4Mn1 for ; Mon, 5 Dec 2022 18:26:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gshapiro@freebsd.org) Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; none Received: from C02Y1186JHD2.corp.proofpoint.com ([IPv6:2600:8805:a810:4200:47c:ca57:5f17:dcbd]) (authenticated bits=0) by zim.gshapiro.net (8.17.0.4/8.17.0.4) with ESMTPSA id 2B5IQMAr060722 (version=TLSv1.3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO); Mon, 5 Dec 2022 18:26:26 GMT Date: Mon, 5 Dec 2022 13:26:22 -0500 From: Gregory Shapiro To: rainer@ultra-secure.de Cc: Chris , freebsd-current Subject: Re: Why was Sendmail replaced with DMA? Message-ID: <20221205182622.uncqg3djv5yskzlw@C02Y1186JHD2.corp.proofpoint.com> References: <8abdbf2771e76dbdd35f49e76b8f7cf9@bsdforge.com> <01994b0a101b6b2003c8404c29316467@ultra-secure.de> List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-current List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <01994b0a101b6b2003c8404c29316467@ultra-secure.de> X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4NQsT54xj1z4Mn1 X-Spamd-Bar: ---- X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; REPLY(-4.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:12876, ipnet:2001:bc8::/32, country:FR] X-Rspamd-Pre-Result: action=no action; module=replies; Message is reply to one we originated X-ThisMailContainsUnwantedMimeParts: N > I think the problem was that the original developers of sendmail have mostly > disappeared. > More or less. > It looked like abandonware. Nope, still here. Granted, the release cycle has slowed, but new features are being tested and coming (e.g., SMTPUTF8/EAI, MTA-STS). I'll be integrating 8.17.2 into FreeBSD upon its release as it has stabilized the EAI work for those who wish to use it.