From owner-freebsd-advocacy Wed Oct 4 11:38: 4 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Received: from blackhelicopters.org (geburah.blackhelicopters.org [209.69.178.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8917B37B502; Wed, 4 Oct 2000 11:37:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from mwlucas@localhost) by blackhelicopters.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA73975; Wed, 4 Oct 2000 14:37:54 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from mwlucas) Date: Wed, 4 Oct 2000 14:37:54 -0400 From: Michael Lucas To: Chris Coleman Cc: Neurosys , freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: BSD Magazine (Advertiser Responses) Message-ID: <20001004143754.A73929@blackhelicopters.org> References: <20001004134334.A73671@blackhelicopters.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i In-Reply-To: ; from chrisc@vmunix.com on Wed, Oct 04, 2000 at 01:48:49PM -0400 Sender: owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, Oct 04, 2000 at 01:48:49PM -0400, Chris Coleman wrote: > > On Wed, Oct 04, 2000 at 01:30:48PM -0400, Neurosys wrote: > > > Listen. In order to make this 'business'. you need capital to start it. > > > Thats how you break the cycle. > > > > That would be far preferable. You have any? > > > Do we have an idea of how much capital it takes to get one started? > > -Chris Four year old quote: black-and-white interior, 96 pages, perfect bound, color cover with pre-separated masters, 1000 copies, roughly $2500, plus another $1500/1000 copies thereafter. Keep in mind that the cost of paper has gone up since then, and that this rate requires pre-laid-out pages, and in today's market you *have* to have pro-looking pages or you'll die before you hit bookstore shelves. That's just the physical production cost. Tack on advertising, markup, etc. Then you have writers' and editors' salaries/fees etc. Do *not* underestimate the amount of time writing and editing a magazine takes! (I suspect Chris has a *real* good idea of this with his new position. ;) Volunteers will only carry you so far, after all. 96 pages is a lot of writing, too. After all, how many pages is the whole Handbook? ==ml -- Michael Lucas mwlucas@blackhelicopters.org http://www.blackhelicopters.org/~mwlucas/ Big Scary Daemons: http://www.oreillynet.com/pub/q/Big_Scary_Daemons To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-advocacy" in the body of the message