Date: Tue, 6 Jan 2004 11:05:20 -0600 From: "Munden, Randall J" <Randall.Munden@umb.com> To: "Brett Glass" <brett@lariat.org>, <chris@randomcamel.net>, <freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org> Cc: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Subject: RE: Where is FreeBSD going? Message-ID: <79B4EAB03B5E4649A740A8C1452F606435AF1B@y6001a.umb.corp.umb.com>
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> -----Original Message----- > From: Brett Glass [mailto:brett@lariat.org] > Sent: Monday, January 05, 2004 9:16 PM > To: Munden, Randall J; chris@randomcamel.net; > freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org > Cc: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org > Subject: RE: Where is FreeBSD going? > > > At 04:00 PM 1/5/2004, Munden, Randall J wrote: > > >I think this is what is on my mind these days. I'm > preparing to load > >up some machines for production soon (I've already put it > off for too > >long waiting for 5-STABLE) and I don't like what I'm seeing -- with > >both the mud slinging here and the performance in the lab (mostly > >anecdotal). > > I don't think that *this* conversation is mud slinging. > What's happening on Slashdot, on the other hand, is. Right, I typed that wrong. This conversation certainly isn't mud slinging -- open, honest discussion can do nothing but good [no matter the outcome]. Honestly, I picked up the troll thread because I'm curious as to why someone would commit so much time in effort to trolling these lists. In my experience it's a good idea to explore the reasoning behind that type of dedication (faulty or not) for no other reason that discovery. On-the-other-hand some people accuse me of being obsessive about information. /me shrugs All I can do now is apologize for 'feeding the troll' or rather, sorry for calling attention to a subject that may be painful, cliché or overused to others. > > >> > >> FreeBSD also keeps falling farther and farther behind Linux > >> in the area of advocacy (and, hence, corporate adoption). > >> Again, this is a governance > >> issue. Many of the developers actually have an antipathy > >> toward advocacy, > >> since they dislike answering newbie FAQs and don't want too > >> many people to adopt the OS for fear that it'll overcrowd > >> their "sandbox." So, some of the criticism is actually valid. > > > >I noticed it too but I just chalked it up to being crazy > busy and not > >paying much attention. > > Nope, it's not because you're too busy. It's true. FreeBSD is > getting fewer mentions in the mainstream press, and fewer > commercial apps, lately. Linux is mentioned as if it was the > ONLY alternative to Windows. Work is needed to raise > FreeBSD's profile. Which leads me to query, given limited time an resources, what can I do? I've moved many a production server to fBSD over the last 10 or so years -- some of them literally -- by blathering nonstop about the virtues of the OS. So what else is there? Do I need to start writing documentation or publishing and pimping more Howtos on the intarweb? Should I brush up on my C and start patching? Frankly, I'd never given thought to providing more effort. The OS has always done it's own advocacy in my experience. > > --Brett > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/free>; bsd-hackers > To > unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-hackers-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >
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