From owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org Sun Dec 23 08:03:36 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B2881350412 for ; Sun, 23 Dec 2018 08:03:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cy.schubert@cschubert.com) Received: from mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (mailman.ysv.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::50:5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 853DD8E984 for ; Sun, 23 Dec 2018 08:03:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cy.schubert@cschubert.com) Received: by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) id 485E91350410; Sun, 23 Dec 2018 08:03:35 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: current@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 25E81135040F for ; Sun, 23 Dec 2018 08:03:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cy.schubert@cschubert.com) Received: from smtp-out-no.shaw.ca (smtp-out-no.shaw.ca [64.59.134.13]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "Client", Issuer "CA" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B21188E981; Sun, 23 Dec 2018 08:03:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cy.schubert@cschubert.com) Received: from spqr.komquats.com ([70.67.125.17]) by shaw.ca with ESMTPA id ayjRg5Om2MRX3ayjTgRJ0e; Sun, 23 Dec 2018 01:03:32 -0700 X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.3 cv=TL87tGta c=1 sm=1 tr=0 a=VFtTW3WuZNDh6VkGe7fA3g==:117 a=VFtTW3WuZNDh6VkGe7fA3g==:17 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=2ur7OfE09M0A:10 a=YxBL1-UpAAAA:8 a=6I5d2MoRAAAA:8 a=oFZYPm5CMtqJyH6ztGoA:9 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=Ia-lj3WSrqcvXOmTRaiG:22 a=IjZwj45LgO3ly-622nXo:22 Received: from slippy.cwsent.com (slippy [10.1.1.91]) by spqr.komquats.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C929F552; Sun, 23 Dec 2018 00:03:29 -0800 (PST) Received: from slippy.cwsent.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by slippy.cwsent.com (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTP id wBN83TtA045138; Sun, 23 Dec 2018 00:03:29 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from Cy.Schubert@cschubert.com) Received: from slippy (cy@localhost) by slippy.cwsent.com (8.15.2/8.15.2/Submit) with ESMTP id wBN83TL0045135; Sun, 23 Dec 2018 00:03:29 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from Cy.Schubert@cschubert.com) Message-Id: <201812230803.wBN83TL0045135@slippy.cwsent.com> X-Authentication-Warning: slippy.cwsent.com: cy owned process doing -bs X-Mailer: exmh version 2.8.0 04/21/2012 with nmh-1.7.1 Reply-to: Cy Schubert From: Cy Schubert X-os: FreeBSD X-Sender: cy@cwsent.com X-URL: http://www.cschubert.com/ To: =?utf-8?Q?Dag-Erling_Sm=C3=B8rgrav?= cc: Cy Schubert , Yuri Pankov , Mark Peek , Enji Cooper , Warner Losh , freebsd-current Subject: Re: workaround for VMware WS NAT bug triggered by OpenSSH 7.8p1 changes In-Reply-To: Message from =?utf-8?Q?Dag-Erling_Sm=C3=B8rgrav?= of "Sun, 23 Dec 2018 08:36:46 +0100." <861s681ypd.fsf@next.des.no> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Date: Sun, 23 Dec 2018 00:03:29 -0800 X-CMAE-Envelope: MS4wfPz8KBoMlR5UN7S5gyC2WFR9cSo24t8OI//Y1zr2h8cN5g8IQyh2qwAuQjbG9SimQMaExNm/Ej3o3t847ZWgZSr05nqOPsOoSIIGuz8fchGHq1JEnB/A p6+vUAcKbLDaPvSHJxDi4SxGMkBYp0z1DYdfgmOm7tjb48E8eZeoSE5XYtKyzeICk76/A99w8fx572O4xecCYHBy2UUl8tvYFy2PB6Z/9WpwfnDrVGUhSkQy Pki74JeANINR91mXrrI6m/bqS6leMV3AbzYDoMekoPtGkMqAWu9QcG0OwQj+xykYSRUxBmdf32kwns2NfxKOeg== X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: B21188E981 X-Spamd-Bar: --- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-3.55 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_FIVE(0.00)[5]; RECEIVED_SPAMHAUS_PBL(0.00)[17.125.67.70.zen.spamhaus.org : 127.0.0.11]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; MV_CASE(0.50)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; HAS_XAW(0.00)[]; HAS_REPLYTO(0.00)[Cy.Schubert@cschubert.com]; NEURAL_SPAM_SHORT(0.34)[0.342,0]; REPLYTO_EQ_FROM(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[cached: spqr.komquats.com]; RCPT_COUNT_SEVEN(0.00)[7]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:6327, ipnet:64.59.128.0/20, country:CA]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; IP_SCORE(-2.18)[ip: (-6.35), ipnet: 64.59.128.0/20(-2.47), asn: 6327(-1.97), country: CA(-0.09)]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW(-0.10)[13.134.59.64.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.1] X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 23 Dec 2018 08:03:36 -0000 In message <861s681ypd.fsf@next.des.no>, =?utf-8?Q?Dag-Erling_Sm=C3=B8rg rav?= w rites: > Cy Schubert writes: > > Add it to ssh_config or sshd_config if one must but have VMware fix > > their bugs. Putting workarounds in our O/S to work around a bug in some > > other vendor's virtualization is something I don't support. > > It's something we do *all the time*. Otherwise we'd just be a toy OS > that hobbyists played with in the weekends on an old spare machine they > keep in a basement closet. Hmmm. I guess Red Hat Enterprise Linux must be a toy OS then. > > > If we must > > add the #ifdefs to our ssh, then add an UPDATING entry to say that to > > enable it put VMWARE_GUEST_WORKAROUND or however we choose to enable it > > in src.conf. > > Then it's useless. No. We do like Red Hat does. Advise the customer to use a workaround until the other vendor fixes their code. -- Cheers, Cy Schubert FreeBSD UNIX: Web: http://www.FreeBSD.org The need of the many outweighs the greed of the few.