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Julian Elischer wrote:
> 
> Mark Ovens wrote:
> 
>>>
>>>
>>> you probably need to run with ddb, kdb and a serial console, or at 
>>> least from the console, outside of
>>> X11 so you can see the error messages. The system will not go int ddb 
>>> if the console is being controlled by X11.
>>>
>>
>> I guess I can't do that then as I don't have serial console and can 
>> only force the crash from within X - and there's no time to switch 
>> back to the console before it hangs. 
> 
> 
> can you run the program with $DISPLAY set to another machine?
> 

Someone mailed me off-list with that suggestion. I've got another 
machine that can just about manage to run X so I'll try it; got to 
rebuild the world first to make sure the kernel and userland are in 
synch as I've cvsup'd my tree since my last build.

What, in particular should I be looking for when it crashes?

Regards,

Mark