From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Nov 4 22:17:56 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 86C4A16A403 for ; Sat, 4 Nov 2006 22:17:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from chad@shire.net) Received: from hobbiton.shire.net (mail.shire.net [166.70.252.250]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BCA4A43D5D for ; Sat, 4 Nov 2006 22:17:54 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from chad@shire.net) Received: from [67.171.127.191] (helo=[192.168.99.68]) by hobbiton.shire.net with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES128-SHA:128) (Exim 4.51) id 1GgTpp-000Dhf-Hb for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 04 Nov 2006 15:17:53 -0700 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) In-Reply-To: <20061104213621.GA11067@thought.org> References: <20061104045607.GA5653@thought.org> <20061104205321.d309c51c.wmoran@collaborativefusion.com> <20061104213621.GA11067@thought.org> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=sha1; boundary=Apple-Mail-34--312120637; protocol="application/pkcs7-signature" Message-Id: <93205279-D6D4-4975-9F47-B2DDF8289D4D@shire.net> From: "Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC" Date: Sat, 4 Nov 2006 15:17:52 -0700 To: FreeBSD Mailing List X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 67.171.127.191 X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: chad@shire.net X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No (on hobbiton.shire.net); SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Re: digression: There is no "ye" (was Re: what happened to groff?!!) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 04 Nov 2006 22:17:56 -0000 --Apple-Mail-34--312120637 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed On Nov 4, 2006, at 2:36 PM, Gary Kline wrote: > On Sat, Nov 04, 2006 at 08:53:21PM +0000, Bill Moran wrote: >> On Fri, 3 Nov 2006 20:56:07 -0800 >> Gary Kline wrote: >> >>> Guys, >>> >>> This roff script is in a directory with ye-olden-English font, >> >> There is no word "ye", and there never was. >> >> Word origins is a hobby of mine, and I found it pretty difficult >> to figure >> out where "ye" came from, because it never existed. >> >> What _did_ exist, was a letter in old English called a "thorne". >> The thorne >> looked a lot like a capital "Y" (with a horizontal line through >> it) and had >> the sound of "th". When the thorne fell into disuse, later >> readers would >> think sentences said "we went to Ye bar to drink wiY friends". >> >> Since "the" is liable to be the most common word in the English >> language, this >> fell into a more general belief that in olden times, the word "ye" >> was used >> instead of "the". >> >> Anyway, it's a bit of non-BSD trivia. Sorry for the noise to >> those who aren't >> interested, and sorry that I don't know enough about groff to help >> fix your >> problem. >> > > Well, maybe the gurus will be back on Monday. I'm no scholar of > the English language, but yeah, you're right on the money re the > thorn character. [ Ever watch Bergan Evans' broadcasts circa > late-1950's? ] > > gary > --- Chad Leigh -- Shire.Net LLC Your Web App and Email hosting provider chad at shire.net --Apple-Mail-34--312120637--