From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 23 09:58:21 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2488BAAB; Tue, 23 Sep 2014 09:58:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: from hz.grosbein.net (hz.grosbein.net [78.47.246.247]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "hz.grosbein.net", Issuer "hz.grosbein.net" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id BD52BDAE; Tue, 23 Sep 2014 09:58:19 +0000 (UTC) Received: from eg.sd.rdtc.ru (root@eg.sd.rdtc.ru [62.231.161.221]) by hz.grosbein.net (8.14.9/8.14.9) with ESMTP id s8N9fmO5078256 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Tue, 23 Sep 2014 11:41:52 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from eugen@grosbein.net) X-Envelope-From: eugen@grosbein.net X-Envelope-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from eg.sd.rdtc.ru (eugen@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by eg.sd.rdtc.ru (8.14.9/8.14.9) with ESMTP id s8N9fUAl059072; Tue, 23 Sep 2014 16:41:31 +0700 (NOVT) (envelope-from eugen@grosbein.net) Message-ID: <5421404A.7060606@grosbein.net> Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2014 16:41:30 +0700 From: Eugene Grosbein User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.5.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Baptiste Daroussin , Michelle Sullivan Subject: Re: pkg 1.3.8 requested but not available? References: <20140923083359.GA20383@ivaldir.etoilebsd.net> <54213713.7020200@sorbs.net> <20140923090937.GB20383@ivaldir.etoilebsd.net> In-Reply-To: <20140923090937.GB20383@ivaldir.etoilebsd.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.3 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,LOCAL_FROM autolearn=no version=3.3.2 X-Spam-Report: * -2.3 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% * [score: 0.0000] * 2.6 LOCAL_FROM From my domains X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.2 (2011-06-06) on hz.grosbein.net Cc: "ports@freebsd.org" , Cristiano Deana , FreeBSD Stable Mailing List X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2014 09:58:21 -0000 On 23.09.2014 16:09, Baptiste Daroussin wrote: >> Just a thought here - why (like .rpm and .deb - and the reason I hate >> them so much) are you making the package manager version a dependency of >> a package? I can understand if there are new features that you may need >> to use a later version to get those features, but making a package >> dependent on the package manager rather than displaying a warning that a >> feature is missing is the brain dead way that plagues upgrades for >> redhat and debian. Of course if your intent is to make FreeBSD into >> another Linux distro just with a different kernel, continue. >> > > There are new feature, that is why, the required version will be only bumped > when there will be new features used by the ports tree, not on every pkg bump Please, please do document what new features resulted in MINIMAL_PKG_VERSION bump. And please, delay bumping of MINIMAL_PKG_VERSION until packages of pkg itself are available from the repo. Eugene Grosbein