From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Nov 13 13:58:01 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C234211260F0 for ; Tue, 13 Nov 2018 13:58:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from 4250.10.freebsd-questions=freebsd.org@email-od.com) Received: from s1-b0c6.socketlabs.email-od.com (s1-b0c6.socketlabs.email-od.com [142.0.176.198]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0A0EB85705 for ; Tue, 13 Nov 2018 13:58:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from 4250.10.freebsd-questions=freebsd.org@email-od.com) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=email-od.com;i=@email-od.com;s=dkim; c=relaxed/relaxed; q=dns/txt; t=1542117481; x=1544709481; h=content-transfer-encoding:content-type:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:message-id:subject:cc:to:from:date:x-thread-info; bh=xhlYCDPFUKlbwYRrNYPP4sluLb258BCQsbDJRaswdSA=; b=KRYOgk1dHCh4lAZWR+sJR7AN7KCXgyQAbhbDjGR28Ngd3TjZy+m0W2gmIY0IaV5tKTQ8L074LETbCJ4YJFnj8KcMeY4S8jde3EVD330+9NupQAaHL0Zs3r9WiTjU7TBv5rTSys14BITfotvqVP7s9NkjEZ+0kRpHDvARbp0u4iw= X-Thread-Info: NDI1MC4xMi4xOWYwMDAwMDIyNmNjNjMuZnJlZWJzZC1xdWVzdGlvbnM9ZnJlZWJzZC5vcmc= Received: from r4.us-east.aws.in.socketlabs.com (r4.us-east.aws.in.socketlabs.com [52.5.202.82]) by mxsg2.email-od.com with ESMTP(version=Tls12 cipher=Aes256 bits=256); Tue, 13 Nov 2018 08:57:53 -0500 Received: from smtp.lan.sohara.org (EMTPY [89.127.62.20]) by r4.us-east.aws.in.socketlabs.com with ESMTP(version=Tls12 cipher=Aes256 bits=256); Tue, 13 Nov 2018 08:57:52 -0500 Received: from [192.168.63.1] (helo=steve.lan.sohara.org) by smtp.lan.sohara.org with smtp (Exim 4.91 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1gMZCQ-000Cu8-V2; Tue, 13 Nov 2018 13:57:50 +0000 Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2018 13:57:50 +0000 From: Steve O'Hara-Smith To: "@lbutlr" Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Long Term support versions? Message-Id: <20181113135750.ea704ac41e688fd98cc8fa0c@sohara.org> In-Reply-To: <7B97FE27-E2AD-431F-A0A3-01FFF26BC121@kreme.com> References: <20181113111556.f5870a43fbb1fe38db2a9df2@sohara.org> <20181113130504.ce9045901a6c838aee60bc19@sohara.org> <7B97FE27-E2AD-431F-A0A3-01FFF26BC121@kreme.com> X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.7.0 (GTK+ 2.24.32; amd64-portbld-freebsd11.1) X-Clacks-Overhead: "GNU Terry Pratchett" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 0A0EB85705 X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-1.99 / 200.00]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip4:142.0.176.0/20]; MV_CASE(0.50)[]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[4]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[email-od.com:+]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[cached: mxbh.socketlabs.com]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.85)[-0.853,0]; FORGED_SENDER(0.00)[steve@sohara.org,4250.10.freebsd-questions=freebsd.org@email-od.com]; IP_SCORE(-0.13)[ip: (-0.30), ipnet: 142.0.176.0/22(-0.15), asn: 7381(-0.12), country: US(-0.09)]; SUBJECT_ENDS_QUESTION(1.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:7381, ipnet:142.0.176.0/22, country:US]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; FROM_NEQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[steve@sohara.org,4250.10.freebsd-questions=freebsd.org@email-od.com]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-0.997,0]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[email-od.com]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-0.998,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[sohara.org]; FORGED_SENDER_VERP_SRS(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[198.176.0.142.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.15.0]; ENVFROM_VERP(0.00)[] X-Rspamd-Server: mx1.freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2018 13:58:02 -0000 On Tue, 13 Nov 2018 06:48:07 -0700 "@lbutlr" wrote: > On 13 Nov 2018, at 06:05, Steve O'Hara-Smith wrote: > > 11. might happen 3 or 4 seems likely but the lifespan of a major > > release seems to vary from two and a half years to nearly four. > > 11.x already has an EOL date, and it is less than three years out and we > don't have a final version. By my count. the lifespan of 11.x is (Sep > 2021 - Release date of 11-FINAL). Yes but what we don't have any real idea about is when to expect 12. apart from less than five years from next month. -- Steve O'Hara-Smith