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Date:      Tue, 15 Mar 2011 11:43:25 +0100
From:      =?utf-8?Q?Dag-Erling_Sm=C3=B8rgrav?= <des@des.no>
To:        Miguel Lopes Santos Ramos <mbox@miguel.ramos.name>
Cc:        freebsd-security@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: It's not possible to allow non-OPIE logins only from trusted networks
Message-ID:  <86ei68y88i.fsf@ds4.des.no>
In-Reply-To: <1300050377.5900.12.camel@w500.local> (Miguel Lopes Santos Ramos's message of "Sun, 13 Mar 2011 21:06:17 %2B0000")
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Miguel Lopes Santos Ramos <mbox@miguel.ramos.name> writes:
> Ok, admittedly, it took me a while to see in what way that could be a
> weekness. It's a bit like hoping for a little remaining security after
> the password list was compromised.

OPIE is not designed to protect against a stolen password list; it is
designed to protect against replay attacks.

With a key calculator, there is no password list to steal - but you need
to make sure that nobody can sniff or shoulder-surf the password you
type into the calculator.  I know of at least one Java ME key calculator
that will run on most Java-enabled smartphones.  Unfortunately for Apple
otakus, this does not include the iPhone, but the good news is that they
can get a real phone for considerably less money.

DES
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Dag-Erling Sm=C3=B8rgrav - des@des.no



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