From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 8 09:12:18 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3AC6316A4CE for ; Thu, 8 Jan 2004 09:12:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from postal1.es.net (postal1.es.net [198.128.3.205]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A357943D31 for ; Thu, 8 Jan 2004 09:12:16 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from oberman@es.net) Received: from ptavv.es.net ([198.128.4.29]) by postal1.es.net (Postal Node 1) with ESMTP (SSL) id IBA74465; Thu, 08 Jan 2004 09:12:15 -0800 Received: from ptavv (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ptavv.es.net (Tachyon Server) with ESMTP id 33CAE5D08; Thu, 8 Jan 2004 09:12:14 -0800 (PST) To: "Alexandre " Sunny " Kovalenko" In-Reply-To: Message from Alexandre "Sunny" Kovalenko <20040107221254.74570411.Alex.Kovalenko@verizon.net> Date: Thu, 08 Jan 2004 09:12:14 -0800 From: "Kevin Oberman" Message-Id: <20040108171214.33CAE5D08@ptavv.es.net> cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD 5.2-CURRENT on HP Omnibook 6000 - ACPI problem X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 08 Jan 2004 17:12:18 -0000 > Date: Wed, 7 Jan 2004 22:12:54 -0500 > From: Alexandre "Sunny" Kovalenko > Sender: owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org > > On Wed, 07 Jan 2004 06:58:08 +0000 > "Rob MacGregor" wrote: > > > I'll have a look at that - thanks. Out of curiosity, what's the number > > reported there actually mean? Yesterday my laptop was reporting numbers of > > around 3350 there, so I'm guessing it's not a literal value in any scale I'm > > familiar with. > Temperature is reported in 0.1 degrees Kalvin with O C = 273 K, so > 3350 is 62 C. > > As a side note -- I have seen shutdown on my laptop when temperature was raising > too fast and fans were not kicking in (I have fair share of mis-features in my > ACPI BIOS). I would tend to believe that when temperature raises too rapidly > ACPI is allowed to shut hardware down without notifying OS to preserve circuitry > from frying. But this is just AFAIK and I am way out of my depth here. This is not even ACPI. Many motherboards for modern P4 and K7 chips do a very low-level BIOS shutdown on over-temp. See ASUS, ABIT, or most any other mobo for a fairly useless blurb on this. >From ABIT: "ABIT ThermalGuard Technology is a special designed for ABIT MB prevents CPU burning down by hardware cooling malfunction. With unique ABIT Hardware Monitoring chip and CPU thermal detector, ThermalGuard Technology can protect the better safety of all CPUs and customers' ABIT motherboards. When the temperature of CPU is over the default threshold degree, system immediately shut down by ABIT ThermalGuard It's great for preventing the lost of customers' investment. Unlike other manufactories, which use BIOS or software to delivery same feature. ABIT ThermalGuard Technology is much more reliable because it is hardware-controlled and uninterruptible." So, if the fan fails to turn on, it is perfectly possible that the system will power off regardless of ACPI. While ABIT makes it sound exclusive, it looks pretty much the same as ASUS "CPU Overtemp Protection System (COPS)" and Gigabyte calls it "Anti-Burn" -- R. Kevin Oberman, Network Engineer Energy Sciences Network (ESnet) Ernest O. Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory (Berkeley Lab) E-mail: oberman@es.net Phone: +1 510 486-8634