From owner-cvs-all Thu Apr 4 0:28:54 2002 Delivered-To: cvs-all@freebsd.org Received: from hal-5.inet.it (hal-5.inet.it [213.92.5.24]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 862EC37B41A for ; Thu, 4 Apr 2002 00:28:20 -0800 (PST) Received: (from root@localhost) by hal-5.inet.it (8.11.1/8.11.1) id g348SJi79648 for ; Thu, 4 Apr 2002 10:28:19 +0200 Received: from acampi.inet.it(213.92.1.165) by hal-5.inet.it via I-SMTP-4.0.6-100 id s-213.92.1.165-KI0BAP; Thu Apr 4 10:28:19 2002 Received: from webcom.it (brian.inet.it [213.92.1.190]) by acampi.inet.it (Postfix) with SMTP id 92DBD15550 for ; Thu, 4 Apr 2002 10:28:18 +0200 (CEST) Received: (qmail 48405 invoked by uid 1000); 4 Apr 2002 08:28:11 -0000 Date: Thu, 4 Apr 2002 10:28:11 +0200 From: Andrea Campi To: The Anarcat Cc: Robert Watson , Mikhail Teterin , jkh@winston.freebsd.org, jhb@FreeBSD.org, winter@jurai.net, cvs-all@FreeBSD.org, cvs-committers@FreeBSD.org, obrien@FreeBSD.org, pst@pst.org, des@ofug.org, imp@village.org Subject: Re: cvs commit: src/usr.sbin/sysinstall install.c installUpgrade Message-ID: <20020404082811.GB47802@webcom.it> References: <200204031827.g33IR39r046085@aldan.algebra.com> <20020404053753.GK279@lenny.anarcat.dyndns.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20020404053753.GK279@lenny.anarcat.dyndns.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.27i X-Echelon: BND CIA NSA Mossad KGB MI6 IRA detonator nuclear assault strike Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, Apr 04, 2002 at 12:37:53AM -0500, The Anarcat wrote: > > For the record, I'm in favor of the .zip format. I think that with > proper design of the package system, packages can be broken up in > subpackages (doc, bin, non-mandatory shlibs, devel headers, etc). I > think Debian has followed this technique and I find it quite a good > idea. Not everyone needs headers files deployed by some packages, for > example. By breaking up packages this way, we can probably resolve the > space constraints issues. > I know this is outside the current discussion and could degenerate in an even worse bikeshed, so this will be my only message in this thread on the list. But I couldn't let this pass uncommented. Please don't head that way! One of the things I hate most in Linux world is the way you can never be sure what exactly is installed. Novice to intermediate users don't need and don't want to know those details; as for power users, they know how to remove unneeded stuff depending on their reason (security, policy, whatever). But it seems to me that your proposal would be only based on disc space, which as mentioned by everybody else, is a very bad reason. Re CDROM space, well, I don't think you can seriously believe that more smaller packages with the same content can take up LESS space than fewer bigger ones... If we want to look at somebody else, please look at Apple, not at Linux. I first moved to FreeBSD from Linux for the better installation and package management, so let's not go back. Just my e 0.02, of course. Bye, Andrea -- Tagline generated by 'gensig' mail-client-independent .signature generator. Get your copy at http://www.geeks.com/~robf/gensig/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message