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Subject: Re: Misinformation
From: Dave Leimbach <dleimbac@earthlink.net>
To: wayne.pascoe@realtime.co.uk
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I guess all I really wanted was truth.  Now that I have FreeBSD
installed and have started playing with ports and writing my own
software/running old linux apps/libraries I wrote on it I couldn't
possibly "go back".

My machine does a tri-boot of Windows (games), Linux (Not sure why
anymore), FreeBSD (where I spend 90% of my time).

It was someone on irc whom I can't remember who started me on this path
of incorrect information.  I suppose I should have simply asked my
question here :).

Dave <Leimy>

On 25 Apr 2001 14:15:56 +0100, Wayne Pascoe wrote:
> Dave Leimbach <dleimbac@earthlink.net> writes:
> 
> > I have run into a few people who made the following false claims about
> > freeBSD.
> > These people sounded like they knew what they were talking about when I
> > first spoke with them.
> > 
> > 1) Its based on Mach. 
> > 2) The SMP in FreeBSD is far superior to even Linux 2.4.x
> > 
> > I am sure there were more.  This type of "I don't know what I am talking
> > about but it sounds good" attitude from whoever said it was very
> > convincing.  <I can't remember the person's name...>.
> 
> I'm not sure who made the second claim, but I run a server farm. We
> were completely a linux shop until 2 months ago. We had been holding
> out for the 2.4 Linux kernel as our supposed saviour. 2.2.x had been
> plagued by VM issues for the last 9 months.
> 
> Upon loading 2.4.0 (problems also persist in 2.4.1) we found the
> following: 
> 
> VM was still broken under extreme io and network load.
> 
> Software Raid 5 was trashed - when trying to rebuild an array, it
> would eat your disk. This was fixed in 2.4.1
> 
> So we bit the bullet and began the move to FreeBSD. It was a fairly
> heavy learning curve (new init system, new packaging system, sysctl
> for tweaking, etc.), but we're getting there.
> 
> In all testing so far, FreeBSD has out performed Linux HUGELY. A Linux
> box, dual PIII-500 with 512MB of ram was running a site. The load
> average on the box was around 6-7. The site has been moved to a single
> processor PIII-800, with 256MB ram running FreeBSD. Load is down to
> 3-4 at peak times.
> 
> So maybe the design is poor in some way, but the real world results
> have been well worth the change for us !
> 
> Just my 2c.
> 
> -- 
> - Wayne Pascoe 
> E-mail: wayne.pascoe@realtime.co.uk
> Phone : +44 (0) 20 7544 4668
> Mobile: +44 (0) 788 431 1675


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