From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 26 04:25:49 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 280C71065670 for ; Thu, 26 Jun 2008 04:25:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from unga888@yahoo.com) Received: from web57008.mail.re3.yahoo.com (web57008.mail.re3.yahoo.com [66.196.97.112]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id BF0A88FC1C for ; Thu, 26 Jun 2008 04:25:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from unga888@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 52301 invoked by uid 60001); 26 Jun 2008 04:25:47 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=KuJWVL9aQBufBCA9H22PeK3DQHHZuuTxD3Ine/95bgVxS8hVmpFL5NDKvCTbF38/9PufJcM+yZsUNsxXLE5QLWdDny/9swe7uaNugJj0TBdzLx+mVF8reg6+mq90jnRSROQbeeSDI7RPtVLjP0jx6WnazrjaG1a+9uuYm9OSofw=; Received: from [165.21.155.112] by web57008.mail.re3.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 25 Jun 2008 21:25:47 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.199 Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2008 21:25:47 -0700 (PDT) From: Unga To: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Dag-Erling_Sm=F8rgrav?= In-Reply-To: <86od5smii6.fsf@ds4.des.no> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-ID: <657952.52146.qm@web57008.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Cc: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Supercomputing with FreeBSD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: unga888@yahoo.com List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2008 04:25:49 -0000 --- On Mon, 6/23/08, Dag-Erling Sm=F8rgrav wrote: > From: Dag-Erling Sm=F8rgrav > Subject: Re: Supercomputing with FreeBSD? > To: "Michael Vince" > Cc: "Unga" , freebsd-chat@freebsd.org > Date: Monday, June 23, 2008, 8:40 PM > Michael Vince writes: > > Yes I remember when Nvidia posted that post so they > could better > > support their hardware on FreeBSD, but at least a few > FreeBSD > > developers slammed the Nvidia poster for reasons that > appeared to me > > to be quite unreasonable. >=20 > The only people who slammed it were those who had no clue > what it was > all about. Several of the features nVidia requested are > being worked on > by those who do. >=20 Its finally very good to note people who know how to do it are being workin= g on it. At a time Linux is either fading or struggling on desktop, and at a time Li= nux developers have to beg for OEMs for open source drivers that they never= get, it is the undeniable responsibility of the FreeBSD developers who kno= w how to clear those issues to clear it and make the infrastructure ready f= or OEMs to develop drivers for FreeBSD.=20 Success of the FreeBSD based desktop depends on the availability of drivers= direct from OEMs, ie, from those who have the specs for it. Its up to the = OEMs to decide whether to open source the drivers or not. Its only the BSDs= can offer this freedom of choice to OEMs, not definitely Linux, which lega= lly demands them to open source only. Another importance of this is, gaming developers are increasingly voice for= 64-bit operating systems. Top end game developers find maximum 4GB RAM is = a thing of the past, they need very much more. Things that nVidia requested are not only for nVidia, I can remember either= Open Sound System developers or Jack developers also mentioned they are al= so handicapped with non-availability of such features.=20 Good luck for those guys who work on the requirements highlighted by nVidia= and get them soon out with FreeBSD 7.X and/or FreeBSD 8.0. Best Regards Unga =0A=0A=0A