From owner-freebsd-x11@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 17 15:15:49 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C811E16A417 for ; Mon, 17 Sep 2007 15:15:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists@pingle.org) Received: from willow.pingle.org (willow.pingle.org [208.149.144.13]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7734313C428 for ; Mon, 17 Sep 2007 15:15:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lists@pingle.org) Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by willow.pingle.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1075011498; Mon, 17 Sep 2007 10:56:34 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at pingle.org Received: from willow.pingle.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (willow.pingle.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id HS5x5DX-GXqB; Mon, 17 Sep 2007 10:56:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [192.168.130.110] (hpcw.hpcisp.com [208.149.144.9]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: jim) by willow.pingle.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D441711496; Mon, 17 Sep 2007 10:56:29 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <46EE9595.3010903@pingle.org> Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2007 10:56:21 -0400 From: Jim Pingle User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: me@janh.de Subject: Re: 7.2->7.3 xorg hangs (ati/radeon, AGPFastWrite) X-BeenThere: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: X11 on FreeBSD -- maintaining and support List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2007 15:15:49 -0000 > The 7.2->7.3 update was not as painless as expected... I've had a similar bad experience... The ATI and Radeon drivers (from the xf86-video-ati-6.7.192 port) are unusable on my rv350 (Radeon 9600 Pro). They produce very bad ghosting effects on various colors that bleed all over the place. If I switch to the VESA driver, it shows up clear, but with reduced resolution and performance. As you did, I also tried with Xorg -configure and created a new file, with no extra modules/options configured. Even with no window manager at the lowest resolution, the video was still corrupted with horrible ghosting. I also tried updated my world/kernel, and even ran "portupgrade -f -R xorg" but the effect is still the same. I saw this PR: http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=116412 but it isn't quite the same as what I am seeing. It worked very well prior to the upgrade. I know that RV350 support is labeled "experimental", but it had been working fine for me with x.org 7.1 and 7.2. One would hope with AMD's recent documentation release and what will hopefully follow, the support for these cards will improve... > (Also, KDE uses way too big fonts for everything since the upgrade -- > but this is totally unrelated.) I also noticed this -- but only with the ATI or Radeon drivers. Using the VESA driver, all of the fonts look normal. For the moment, I'm stuck with the VESA drivers, but I'm still fiddling around trying to see what other options I may have missed. If anyone is interested, I can take a picture of the screen to show an example of the image ghosting/streaking. Jim P.S. Please cc me on replies. I'm not currently subscribed to the FreeBSD-X11 list.