Date: Sat, 14 Jul 2012 16:04:13 -0700 From: Devin Teske <devin.teske@fisglobal.com> To: Bruce Cran <bruce@cran.org.uk> Cc: Devin Teske <dteske@freebsd.org>, Ron McDowell <rcm@fuzzwad.org>, freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: [IMPORT] bsdconfig(8) Message-ID: <E872B503-22E6-408E-831C-F8EE45652CBA@fisglobal.com> In-Reply-To: <5001F39B.4010403@cran.org.uk> References: <E9DED6C2-9E85-44D5-B40F-D4CC21B67A03@fisglobal.com> <50013D3B.90206@cran.org.uk> <04E88813-2416-4B60-93D3-D620DBE5A8AF@fisglobal.com> <5001D152.2050007@cran.org.uk> <B08553A1-C181-47C2-A8E8-119D4B1C367A@fisglobal.com> <5001DC03.6010705@cran.org.uk> <ED431E3D-C022-4E5B-829E-44280E1E2A11@fisglobal.com> <5001E8B2.8010803@cran.org.uk> <D557EBE7-F613-45DE-869C-A3594C8F3127@fisglobal.com> <5001F39B.4010403@cran.org.uk>
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On Jul 14, 2012, at 3:32 PM, Bruce Cran wrote: > On 14/07/2012 22:58, Devin Teske wrote: >> Did I? When one starts discussing 'Express Install', we're clearly in th= e realm of bsdinstall, not bsdconfig. >>=20 >> Like you stated, in that case bsdinstall would not use bsdconfig. >=20 > I'm getting really confused here. Either "bsdconfig password" gets run be= fore the post-install configuration menu is shown and therefore the text sa= ying to set the root password in the welcome screen is unnecessary, or it d= oesn't get run and it's possible to quit bsdconfig without setting the root= password. >=20 Ok, it's more clear to me that the concern is with the welcome screen. 1. The welcome screen _text_ was ripped straight from sysinstall except wit= h one difference=85 s/Pascal/Firefox/ (updating it for the current generati= ons). 2. Currently this text is shoved in your face but it won't always be. The t= ext will be moved to a "Help" screen. So, in a way you're absolutely right=85 you've highlighted a conundrum (the= welcome screen contains text which is not suitable for a welcome screen) b= ecause bsdinstall did something differently than sysinstall in this one cas= e (reasons below; solution above -- get rid of the welcome screen). The reason why we (Ron and I) chose to not implement the help-text in the s= ame way that sysinstall does (go to the "Configure" top-level menu and then= press F1) is that bsdconfig strives to be compatible with both dialog(1) a= nd [purported drop-in replacement] Xdialog(1) -- and the latter doesn't sup= port hooking into F1. However, it's agreed that the welcome screen is not the right way to re-imp= lement the configure.help file from sysinstall (actually rescuing _all_ of = the *.help files from the clutches of the Attic -- further internationalizi= ng them in the process too). The envisioned construct right now is to add a third button labeled "Help".= This can be done in both dialog(1) and Xdialog(1) (see "bsdconfig startup_= rcconf" and the "Details" button -- except instead of dangling a menu off o= f it, it will produce a box with the desired help-text. Of course, making this scalable and usable is a challenge so we haven't yet= migrated away from the welcome screen before the import to HEAD. It will be dealt with before MFC and also before WITH_BSDCONFIG becomes WIT= HOUT_BSDCONFIG. --=20 Devin _____________ The information contained in this message is proprietary and/or confidentia= l. If you are not the intended recipient, please: (i) delete the message an= d all copies; (ii) do not disclose, distribute or use the message in any ma= nner; and (iii) notify the sender immediately. In addition, please be aware= that any message addressed to our domain is subject to archiving and revie= w by persons other than the intended recipient. Thank you.
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