From owner-freebsd-chat Mon Dec 21 05:28:47 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id FAA22834 for freebsd-chat-outgoing; Mon, 21 Dec 1998 05:28:47 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from www.inx.de (www.inx.de [195.21.255.251]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id FAA22712 for ; Mon, 21 Dec 1998 05:28:44 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jnickelsen@acm.org) Received: by www.inx.de (Smail3.2.0.96inx) from [195.21.31.104] (195.21.31.104) with esmtp id ; Mon, 21 Dec 1998 14:28:39 +0100 (MET) X-Sender: jn@berlin.snafu.de Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <367E0725.4749B7CB@uk.radan.com> References: <4.1.19981220152518.00ac53d0@genesis.ispace.com> <199812202020.MAA46296@rah.star-gate.com> <4.1.19981220152518.00ac53d0@genesis.ispace.com> <4.1.19981220213341.009a9160@genesis.ispace.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1998 11:42:34 +0100 To: Mark Ovens From: Juergen Nickelsen Subject: Re: Cool, A White Snowy Christmas in Sunnyvale, California 8) Cc: Drew Baxter , Ollivier Robert , chat@FreeBSD.ORG Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 At 9:30 +0100 21.12.1998, Mark Ovens wrote on freebsd-chat: >So, when I read US citizens complaining about $89 for a 256k/128k >service it makes me laugh (well it makes me cry really :-) ). Don't >complain, you guys have got it good. Mark, what you write about the UK is basically true for Germany, only our rates are higher. Like BT, the "Deutsche Telekom" was a monopoly until not long ago and still effectively is for local calls. (AFAIK only in Cologne there is an alternative provider that serves also private homes. Colt Telecom provides also local services, but only for major customers.) The Telekom's rates range from 0.08 DEM (about 0.05 US$) per minute in the daytime down to 0.04 DEM per minute during the night. A 64 kbps line costs 250 DEM (156 US$) if both ends are connected to the same local exchange. If not, the rate is 385 DEM (240 US$) plus 22.50 DEM (14 US$) per kilometer for the first 15 km, less at larger distances. A 128 kbps line costs about three times as much. (Actually this is an ISDN line with two B channels at 64 kbps and one D channel with 16 kbps.) This is, of course, just the line, without Internet connectivity. Well, yes, you guys have it good -- and that includes the UK. :-/ Greetings, Juergen. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGPfreeware 5.5.3i for non-commercial use iQA/AwUBNn4mEPxneYZkCUPbEQLu1wCg9zG7/LiH/hH4ExRGQkeV+4lV/uQAoNwM chvI11dHAxLjm7k7ciIsRnsX =5Kue -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message