From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 11 15:04:20 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1CB7D16A418; Fri, 11 Jan 2008 15:04:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aryeh.friedman@gmail.com) Received: from mta5.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta5.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.4.200]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D59D913C447; Fri, 11 Jan 2008 15:04:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aryeh.friedman@gmail.com) Received: from flosoft.no-ip.biz (ool-435559b8.dyn.optonline.net [67.85.89.184]) by mta5.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-8.04 (built Feb 28 2007)) with ESMTP id <0JUH00M1OJ765AK0@mta5.srv.hcvlny.cv.net>; Fri, 11 Jan 2008 10:04:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from flosoft.no-ip.biz (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by flosoft.no-ip.biz (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id m0BF4IGG000621; Fri, 11 Jan 2008 10:04:18 -0500 Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2008 10:04:18 -0500 From: "Aryeh M. Friedman" In-reply-to: <20080111155532.Q60251@knop-beagle.kn.op.dlr.de> To: Harti Brandt Message-id: <47878572.8040200@gmail.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.5 References: <47873B06.9010603@riscworks.net> <200801111058.m0BAwAMG001075@lurza.secnetix.de> <20080111140144.59498431.timo.schoeler@riscworks.net> <47876B39.3040703@FreeBSD.org> <20080111145128.abb76a0a.timo.schoeler@riscworks.net> <20080111145557.C60251@knop-beagle.kn.op.dlr.de> <20080111150529.e96a7b1d.timo.schoeler@riscworks.net> <20080111155532.Q60251@knop-beagle.kn.op.dlr.de> User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (X11/20080104) Cc: Timo Schoeler , freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD's problems as seen by the BSDForen.de community X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2008 15:04:20 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Harti Brandt wrote: > On Fri, 11 Jan 2008, Timo Schoeler wrote: > > TS>Thus Harti Brandt spake on Fri, 11 Jan > 2008 TS>14:59:26 +0100 (CET): TS> TS>> On Fri, 11 Jan 2008, Timo > Schoeler wrote: TS>> TS>> TS>No, I didn't. I said that the work is > done ineffectively as he's TS>> TS>doing underprioritized stuff. > Working on higher prioritized stuff TS>> TS>would be more > efficient, and would help the project even more. TS>> TS> TS>> > TS>Given the assumption that the developer is able to do both, the > TS>> TS>Xmas tree as well as importing ZFS v9 into the tree. TS>> > TS> TS>> TS>(I don't see the point that when somebody is really > *capable* of TS>> TS>doing both things, why should (s)he do the > 'lower priority' thing. TS>> TS>If you are at the olympic stadium > and you're the best sprinter, TS>> TS>you wouldn't join the > marathon...!) TS>> TS>> Sorry, this is just crap. I'm a rather bad > guitar player, at least TS>> much worse than I'm a programmer. Yet > I enjoy playing Joe Pass at 1/4 TS>> the speed while I could import > ZFS during that time ... People just TS>> bring to FreeBSD what > they like to do, not what would be the best for TS>> you or others. > If you want them to change priorities according to TS>> YOUR needs, > pay them money. TS>> TS>> harti TS> TS>Harti, you didn't get the > point. You can also lead you dog into my TS>yard, as long as you > don't work on FreeBSD noone cares, really. The TS>difference is > *when* working on FreeBSD *what* do to -- xmas tree or TS>ZFS. TS> > TS>I thought this argumentation was pretty straightforward, but > sometimes 2 TS>+2 is really 5... > > I don't see the difference between working on what I like to work > on in FreeBSD and leading my dog (if I had one). It's just my > choice because it is my time. If I'd be paid for working on > FreeBSD, it'd be different. If I find the xmas tree controller more > interesting than ZFS why should I work on ZFS? You assumption is > that it matters for you on what I work, but it doesn't matter for > me, so I could just work on what is good for you. > I suspose suicide is ok or taking drugs is ok on the same arg - -- Aryeh M. Friedman FloSoft Systems, Java Developer Tools. http://www.flosoft-systems.com Developer, not business, friendly. "Free software != Free beer" Blog: http://www.flosoft-systems.com/flosoft_systems_community/blogs/aryeh/index.php -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.4 (FreeBSD) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFHh4VyjRvRjGmHRgQRAo6ZAJ95nLg2xNF6JJiOpWVCsCfFhyY8UACfbnl6 hNU67zDpgM3NsWJ2MEnScTk= =W4m7 -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----