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Date:      Tue, 23 Jul 2002 20:23:35 +0200
From:      =?iso-8859-1?Q?Erik_Paulsen_Sk=E5lerud?= <erik@pentadon.com>
To:        <tony@valemount.com>, <mobile@FreeBSD.ORG>
Subject:   Re: (Retry) Bridging a wi-device with a LAN-adapter
Message-ID:  <002001c23276$0eb66780$0200000a@erikpc>
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Oh. Well I'm only going to have one AP in this case, if building an AP is
the only solution to bridge the networks. So, I just really need to be sure
about this, the AP/Bridge can work just as a regular bridge? All broadcasts
and such gets passed through and can answer back? (My scenario is to connect
a wired LAN with a wireless LAN, and make it look like one big network,
because of Windows 2000 Active Directory domains and such)

Erik.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Tony Toole" <tony@valemount.com>
To: <mobile@FreeBSD.ORG>
Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2002 7:17 PM
Subject: Re: (Retry) Bridging a wi-device with a LAN-adapter


> Yes.  You have to remember however that having a card acting as an AP
means
> other clients can connect to it, however your card on AP mode cannot
connect
> to another AP unless both units support wi's WDS implementation (does it
> have one?).
>
> Thanks,
> Tony Toole
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Erik Paulsen Skålerud" <erik@pentadon.com>
> To: "Tony Toole" <tony@valemount.com>; <mobile@FreeBSD.ORG>
> Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2002 10:11 AM
> Subject: Re: (Retry) Bridging a wi-device with a LAN-adapter
>
>
> > So, If I buy a new card wich has the Prism2/Prism2.5 chipset, it can
work
> as
> > an AP for me -and- bridge in my 100mbit ethernet LAN? So, to say it the
> dumb
> > way, it will appear as a whole network (bridge)
> >
> > Erik.
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Tony Toole" <tony@valemount.com>
> > To: <mobile@FreeBSD.ORG>
> > Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2002 5:18 PM
> > Subject: Re: (Retry) Bridging a wi-device with a LAN-adapter
> >
> >
> > > The man page for wi(4) shows how to set up a bridge, but the card must
> be
> > in
> > > pseudo-AP (HostAP) mode, which voids out Orinoco cards like you said.
> > >
> > > Tony Toole
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Eric Hedström" <erich@ucsd.edu>
> > > To: "Erik Paulsen Skålerud" <erik@pentadon.com>
> > > Cc: <freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG>; <freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG>
> > > Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2002 7:59 AM
> > > Subject: Re: (Retry) Bridging a wi-device with a LAN-adapter
> > >
> > >
> > > > Hi Erik,
> > > > Assuming the wi(4) page is correct when it says Prism only, that
rules
> > > > out your Orinoco card in any case.
> > > >
> > > > Eric
> > > >
> > > > Erik Paulsen Skålerud wrote:
> > > > > Hello. I'm a little confused here.
> > > > > I want to bridge my wireless card (Orinoco/Lucent Silver 11mbit)
> with
> > my
> > > > > LAN-adapter (fxp0).
> > > > >
> > > > > When I read the wi(4), allmost at the end of the configuration
> > examples
> > > it
> > > > > says:
> > > > >
> > > > >      Create a host-based wireless bridge to fxp0 (Prism only):
> > > > >            Add BRIDGE to the kernel config.
> > > > >            # ifconfig wi0 inet up ssid my_ap mediaopt hostap
> > > > >            # sysctl net.link.ether.bridge=1
> > > > >            # sysctl net.link.ether.bridge_cfg="wi0 fxp0"
> > > > >            # sysctl net.inet.ip.forwarding=1
> > > > >      This will give you approximately the same functionality as an
> > > access
> > > > >      point.
> > > > >
> > > > > And, when I read the bridge(4) manual page, it says:
> > > > >
> > > > >      Bridging requires interfaces to be put in promiscuous mode,
and
> > > > > transmit
> > > > >      packets with Ethernet source addresses.  Some interfaces
(e.g.
> > > wi(4))
> > > > > do
> > > > >      not support this functionality.  Also, bridging is not
> compatible
> > > with
> > > > >      interfaces which use hardware loopback, because there is no
way
> > to
> > > tell
> > > > >      locally generated packets from externally generated ones.
> > > > >
> > > > > So. Where do I stand? Can it do bridging in FreeBSD or not? I
tried
> to
> > > make
> > > > > it work, both in FreeBSD and Windows XP (yes, I know.) without any
> > > results.
> > > > >
> > > > > While searching on mailinglists, I see several people saying that
> you
> > > need a
> > > > > binary firmware wich costs money so that the cards can work with
> > > bridging..
> > > > > the reason would be that the manufactors of these chipsets wants
to
> > make
> > > > > money on selling licenses to companies who want an AP.
> > > > >
> > > > > I've also heard a rumour that ng_bridge(4)/netgraph can do
bridging
> > with
> > > > > wi(4)-devices. Is this true?
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks for all help, Erik.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
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