From owner-freebsd-security Sun Feb 17 23: 6:38 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-security@freebsd.org Received: from riker.skynet.be (riker.skynet.be [195.238.3.132]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B679C37B416 for ; Sun, 17 Feb 2002 23:06:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from skynet.be (dialup69.herentals.skynet.be [195.238.28.69]) by riker.skynet.be (8.11.6/8.11.6/Skynet-OUT-2.16) with ESMTP id g1I76Cc03939; Mon, 18 Feb 2002 08:06:12 +0100 (MET) (envelope-from ) Message-ID: <3C70A7E1.5080900@skynet.be> Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2002 08:06:09 +0100 From: Raf Schietekat Reply-To: Raf_Schietekat@ieee.org User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011019 Netscape6/6.2 X-Accept-Language: en-us MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Miguel Mendez Cc: freebsd-security@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: as they advise the Sponsor. References: <200202162009.g1GK90C96120@mail.visp.co.nz> <3C6FF51C.4090602@skynet.be> <20020217193936.A25423@energyhq.homeip.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-security@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Miguel Mendez wrote: >[...] > WTF, could we stop all this crap everytime a LookOut user sends an > infected message to any of the freebsd-* lists? I mean, do we really > care? After all, it only affects Windows users ;-) > > If it depended on me, Outlook users would be banned from posting here. > > Cheers, Yeah, good idea, nuke all them Billysoft suckers and save the world! Meanwhile, how about if I sent an innocent FreeBSD user an attack (this looked like a Trojan horse, not an Outlook worm/virus (?), after my forwarding cum "virus" filtering service released it to me)? Would s/he be protected by what Java would call a sand box? I don't think so. Unix security may be based more on marginality than on technical prowess, and little if any progress seems to be being made. What good does it do to me as an ordinary user that the superuser is safe and smug about his continued service, if all my personal stuff goes down the drain? Raf Schietekat Running Netscape 6.2 (because I still can) on MS Windows 2000 Professional on my laptop (because I have to). To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-security" in the body of the message